HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player

redskins121684 · 05-21-2010, 02:20 AM

Romanowski is saying this because he's the poster boy for HGH. He loves that stuff. I think his wife had something like 6 perscriptions for HGH. He's part of that movement toward giving all players access to the hormone. I don't disagree with his reasoning HGH could probably save a lot of players a world of hurt when they are in their forties and fifties but it won't happen. The NFL doesn't want to tackle this thing because they realize HGH is a necessity. The NFL needs its best players to play and one way to achieve that is HGH. They can't publicly endorse a product demonized by organizations like the world anti doping agency. The way you handle it is you turn a blind eyes, you don't test, and you hope players use some kkind of discretion. Rodney Harrison messed up that last part. Santana probably won't be suspended any time soon, the NFL wants to let this thing play out, when have they ever done that under the watchful eye of Goodell, he suspended a player based on sex assault allegations where no charges arose (I am not defending Rapistburger I hate him I only make the point to emphasize Goodell could be described as trigger happy)? This drug is commonplace, moreover it's needed. I don't condone steroid use by a player but HGH isn't steroids and Moss was trying to heal himself. You can make the argument that HGH is performance enhancing but when a player uses the drug to get back to their original performance standard what can you say? You could make the same argument about IVs at halftime. A player gets dehydrated and they take an IV to get rehydrated FASTER, I know IVs are available to every player but at the end of the day most if not all NFL players can afford HGH, even guys making the minimum and they have access, there are always black market guys available to the players to get this stuff. This is a very dicey spot it presents to the NFL players who sought medical treatment and were treated with HGH. Moreover if you say HGH is cheating by a player because it utilizes measures not available to all players to achieve original performance ability then you enter a slippery slope. What of microfracture surgery for players, a procedure that most college programs will not reccomend because it's expensive, Tommy John surgery, knee reconstruction, or joint replacement. Sally Jenkins wrote a great article for the post yesterday and she made a very serious point.

We, as fans, expect more all the time. We expect the threshold for performance to increase all the time. That's unrealistic. The warrior mentality that these guys have, ultimately, leads to their demise. I will not fault a guy for trying to heal his body because he got the snot knocked out of him entertaining me on Sundays, I can't do that, and what's more I don't think the league will do that. HGH isn't steroids it's a whole different animal it does different things to the body.

I think if we want to forecast the league standing on Moss the greatest likelihood is that he will not be suspended at all. The evidence is cirsumstantial and clouded by the defendant. We should realize that in the Harrison case he made an admission in open court, Moss likely will not have to do that, he may go in front of a grand jusry but language is key. He can say things without actually saying things and hopefully that is what he does.

tryfuhl · 05-21-2010, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

Anyone else notice the "Doctor Prescribed HGH" and "GenF20 HGH Releaser" Google ads below Busters post at the top of the page? It seems to me that like most things it can be abused, but it also can be used in a very beneficial manner. Maybe the NFL should revisit their stance on HGH and how it is used to treat injuries.

Most (well at least text-based) ad networks run content-based ads.

SmootSmack · 05-21-2010, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Does this have anything to do with that?

Washington D.C. What's good?! about 13 hours ago via UberTwitter

Ha! Didn't see that.

Anyhow, full disclosure, way back when, (Feb/March) when the Saints and Skins were talking about various players Lance Moore was brought up for a minute. It was apparently so brief though that didn't seem like any big deal. But now...could be

tryfuhl · 05-21-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ha! Didn't see that.

Anyhow, full disclosure, way back when, (Feb/March) when the Saints and Skins were talking about various players Lance Moore was brought up for a minute. It was apparently so brief though that didn't seem like any big deal. But now...could be

Nice nice.. I had just run a google search to find out his current contract status/tender and decided to check out his twitter while at it.

T.O.Killa · 05-21-2010, 01:03 PM

I am pretty sure the Redskins FO knew this was coming. That why they brought in so many reievers. I dont buy Jason Ried's story that this may change their mind about TO. If the sign TO it would not be because they just found this out.

SmootSmack · 05-21-2010, 01:14 PM

Teams almost always have a heads up on this kind of stuff

CRedskinsRule · 05-21-2010, 02:54 PM

FakeBruceAllen

Officially I have no comment on the Santana Moss situation. Unofficially I have set up an apt between Dr. Galea and Portis. #Redskins

redskins121684 · 05-21-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

FakeBruceAllen

Officially I have no comment on the Santana Moss situation. Unofficially I have set up an apt between Dr. Galea and Portis. #Redskins

Monkeydad · 05-21-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I am pretty sure the Redskins FO knew this was coming. That why they brought in so many reievers. I dont buy Jason Ried's story that this may change their mind about TO. If the sign TO it would not be because they just found this out.

We ALWAYS bring in a ton of WRs. Roydell is a frequent invite/cut.

redskins121684 · 05-21-2010, 09:33 PM

Do any of the guys they brought in have the speed that Moss has. I know they say Galloway can still move but he can't be faster than moss. I just assumed they brought in these extra bodies to motivate/mentor Thomas and Kelly.

firstdown · 05-24-2010, 10:26 AM

Can someone bring me up to date on what happened here so I don't have to read 17 pages of post as I have been out of town for the past 7 days.

CRedskinsRule · 05-24-2010, 10:39 AM

Here is the Buffalo News story:NFL name emerges in doping case with doctor : City & Region : The Buffalo News

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Santana Moss, a wide receiver for the NFL’s Washington Redskins, is one of the professional athletes who allegedly received treatment from a Toronto physician charged Tuesday with smuggling muscle-building drugs into the United States, according to sources close to the case.

But at this point, federal prosecutors do not intend to file criminal charges against Moss or any other athlete who had dealings with the doctor.

That word came Wednesday afternoon from William J. Hochul Jr., U. S. attorney in Buffalo.

“At this juncture, any of the persons who are alleged to have used these substances are considered witnesses, and not targets, of this investigation,” Hochul told The Buffalo News.
...
His lawyers, including Mark J. Mahoney of Buffalo, denied the allegations of wrongdoing against the doctor. ...

“Officials of the NFL and other sports organizations can sleep soundly tonight, because there is nothing he did with these athletes to help them with performance enhancement,” Mahoney said Wednesday.

“[Galea] strictly provided treatment for injuries. If any athlete got [human growth hormone], it was injected directly into injured tissue, in very small amounts, for purposes of healing.”

Agents questioned more than a dozen American athletes about the treatment they received from Galea, authorities said.

...

Moss, 30, is not mentioned by name in court papers filed in Galea’s case on Tuesday, and the Redskins player is not charged with any crime.

An employee at the Miami Beach office of Moss’ agent, Drew Rosenhaus, declined to comment when contacted by The News.

“There won’t be any comment along those lines from Santana,” said the employee, who did not give his name.
...
Galea never obtained legal permission to work as a doctor or in any other capacity in the United States, according to a court affidavit filed by Justin J. Burnham, an agent with Immigration & Customs Enforcement.
...
Galea’s then-assistant, Mary Anne Catalano, was arrested at the Peace Bridge last Sept. 14, and federal agents found banned drugs, syringes and other medical equipment in her vehicle, authorities said.

Authorities said Catalano was going to transport the drugs to Washington, where Galea was going to treat a pro football player.

Since her arrest, Catalano has cooperated with federal investigators with information about her boss and his treatment of athletes.

I cut out alot, but thought these points were interesting

Monkeydad · 05-24-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Can someone bring me up to date on what happened here so I don't have to read 17 pages of post as I have been out of town for the past 7 days.

Out of town you say?

http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lo...tml#post664116

firstdown · 05-24-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Out of town you say?

http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lo...tml#post664116

Funny.

05-21-2010, 02:20 AM	#166
redskins121684 Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 31	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Romanowski is saying this because he's the poster boy for HGH. He loves that stuff. I think his wife had something like 6 perscriptions for HGH. He's part of that movement toward giving all players access to the hormone. I don't disagree with his reasoning HGH could probably save a lot of players a world of hurt when they are in their forties and fifties but it won't happen. The NFL doesn't want to tackle this thing because they realize HGH is a necessity. The NFL needs its best players to play and one way to achieve that is HGH. They can't publicly endorse a product demonized by organizations like the world anti doping agency. The way you handle it is you turn a blind eyes, you don't test, and you hope players use some kkind of discretion. Rodney Harrison messed up that last part. Santana probably won't be suspended any time soon, the NFL wants to let this thing play out, when have they ever done that under the watchful eye of Goodell, he suspended a player based on sex assault allegations where no charges arose (I am not defending Rapistburger I hate him I only make the point to emphasize Goodell could be described as trigger happy)? This drug is commonplace, moreover it's needed. I don't condone steroid use by a player but HGH isn't steroids and Moss was trying to heal himself. You can make the argument that HGH is performance enhancing but when a player uses the drug to get back to their original performance standard what can you say? You could make the same argument about IVs at halftime. A player gets dehydrated and they take an IV to get rehydrated FASTER, I know IVs are available to every player but at the end of the day most if not all NFL players can afford HGH, even guys making the minimum and they have access, there are always black market guys available to the players to get this stuff. This is a very dicey spot it presents to the NFL players who sought medical treatment and were treated with HGH. Moreover if you say HGH is cheating by a player because it utilizes measures not available to all players to achieve original performance ability then you enter a slippery slope. What of microfracture surgery for players, a procedure that most college programs will not reccomend because it's expensive, Tommy John surgery, knee reconstruction, or joint replacement. Sally Jenkins wrote a great article for the post yesterday and she made a very serious point. We, as fans, expect more all the time. We expect the threshold for performance to increase all the time. That's unrealistic. The warrior mentality that these guys have, ultimately, leads to their demise. I will not fault a guy for trying to heal his body because he got the snot knocked out of him entertaining me on Sundays, I can't do that, and what's more I don't think the league will do that. HGH isn't steroids it's a whole different animal it does different things to the body. I think if we want to forecast the league standing on Moss the greatest likelihood is that he will not be suspended at all. The evidence is cirsumstantial and clouded by the defendant. We should realize that in the Harrison case he made an admission in open court, Moss likely will not have to do that, he may go in front of a grand jusry but language is key. He can say things without actually saying things and hopefully that is what he does.

05-21-2010, 01:03 PM	#170
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player I am pretty sure the Redskins FO knew this was coming. That why they brought in so many reievers. I dont buy Jason Ried's story that this may change their mind about TO. If the sign TO it would not be because they just found this out.

05-21-2010, 01:14 PM	#171
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05-21-2010, 02:54 PM	#172
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,428	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player FakeBruceAllen Officially I have no comment on the Santana Moss situation. Unofficially I have set up an apt between Dr. Galea and Portis. #Redskins

05-21-2010, 09:33 PM	#175
redskins121684 Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 31	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Do any of the guys they brought in have the speed that Moss has. I know they say Galloway can still move but he can't be faster than moss. I just assumed they brought in these extra bodies to motivate/mentor Thomas and Kelly.

05-24-2010, 10:26 AM	#176
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: HGH DR. linked to Redskins Player Can someone bring me up to date on what happened here so I don't have to read 17 pages of post as I have been out of town for the past 7 days.

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