American Needle vs. NFL

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-13-2010, 05:49 PM

Dirtbag, comcast doesnt make NFL games available???? Do they block the networks or something?

Dirtbag59 · 01-13-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Dirtbag, comcast doesnt make NFL games available???? Do they block the networks or something?

No, DirectTV has exclusive rights to sell a package like NFL Sunday Ticket. Networks like Comcast are limited to whatever games Fox and CBS are showing for a particular region. If you live in Atlanta like me and you want to watch every Redskins game then your only options are to find the game streamed online or buy DirectTV. Absoulute bull. Not sure how the NFL expects people to continue to be fans when they can't see the games they want to see.

saden1 · 01-13-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

No, DirectTV has exclusive rights to sell a package like NFL Sunday Ticket. Networks like Comcast are limited to whatever games Fox and CBS are showing for a particular region. If you live in Atlanta like me and you want to watch every Redskins game then your only options are to find the game streamed online or buy DirectTV. Absoulute bull. Not sure how the NFL expects people to continue to be fans when they can't see the games they want to see.

You can, you just go through their prefered partner, DirectTV, who happens to pay them billions.

CRedskinsRule · 05-24-2010, 12:00 PM

US high court--NFL sports apparel suit can proceed | Reuters
Sounds like American Needle won.

WASHINGTON, May 24 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court ruled on Monday, in a dispute over an exclusive licensing deal for sports merchandise, that a lawsuit against the National Football League under federal antitrust law can go forward.

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In a unanimous decision in the closely watched sports law case, the justices overturned a ruling by a U.S. appeals court in Chicago that had thrown out the lawsuit against the league over its deal on the sale of NFL-branded items like caps and other apparel.

The high court's ruling was a victory for American Needle Inc, a clothing manufacturer in Buffalo Grove, Illinois, which argued that the NFL and its 32 teams can be sued under the antitrust laws for signing an exclusive licensing deal with Reebok International in 2001.

"We conclude that the NFL's licensing activities constitute concerted action that is not categorically beyond the coverage of" federal antitrust law, Justice John Paul Stevens wrote in the court's opinion. (Reporting by James Vicini, Editing by Gerald E. McCormick)

jgalecpa · 05-24-2010, 03:24 PM

No kidding.

I thought sure of the people who were sure the NFL would win were getting ahead of themselves.

When Dan Snyder bought in, he bought "The Redskins', and to think he was buying a share of the NFL as a whole seemed a little beyond the pale.

Think the justices got this one right, and it opens a can of worms for other areas, not just hat manufacturers.

CRedskinsRule · 05-24-2010, 03:28 PM

NFL statement on today’s American Needle decision:

“In today’s decision, the Supreme Court recognized that ‘special characteristics’ of professional sports leagues, including the need for competitive balance, ‘may well justify’ business decisions that among independent competitors would otherwise be unlawful. The court noted that the NFL teams’ shared interest in making the league successful and cooperating to produce NFL football provide ‘a perfectly sensible justification for making a host of collective decisions.’ The decision will simply result in American Needle’s claim being sent back to the federal district court in Chicago, where the case will resume in its early stages. We remain confident we will ultimately prevail because the league decision about how best to promote the NFL was reasonable, pro-competitive, and entirely lawful. The Supreme Court’s decision has no bearing on collective bargaining, which is governed by labor law.”
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Lotus · 05-28-2010, 01:26 AM

Good job, CRed. Thank you for the update. I've been wondering what has been going on with this case.

GusFrerotte · 05-30-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This is a pivotal case for pro sports the US Supreme Court is hearing. JoeRedskin I'm looking in your direction to dumb it down to layman's terms for us.

Supreme Court to weigh NFL and antitrust laws - latimes.com

On Jan. 13, the pro football owners will be asking the high court to rule for the first time that the NFL is shielded from antitrust laws because, while its teams compete on the playing field, they function in business as a "single entity."

If the justices were to agree, the ramifications could be significant, not just for football but all pro sports leagues, say experts in sports law. Freed from the antitrust laws, owners could get together to restrict salaries for players and coaches and raise prices for everything from tickets to stocking caps.

Well the Justices gave the owners the finger so it will be business as usualy probably. IF the owners raise the prices anymore they would lose out with the fans for sure.

redskins121684 · 05-31-2010, 02:53 AM

One thing that might arise out of this is the eclusivity agreement with the NFL and the networks that broadcast the games being considered an antitrust violation. If the Supreme Court is saying that they in effect are 32 competing businesses operating on a competitive basis then what of the DirecTV agreement and the agreements with FOX, NBC, and CBS not to mention NFL Network. The league can't hide behind the Clayton Act exemptions to hand out uniform TV contracts anymore. We could actually see teams selling broadcast rights to the highest bidder individually, that would be awsome because then maybe we see the Skins game and have others available on off networks like versus or comcast or masn, the DirecTV sunday ticket may no longer be necessary.

01-13-2010, 05:49 PM	#31
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05-24-2010, 12:00 PM	#34
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,428	Re: American Needle vs. NFL US high court--NFL sports apparel suit can proceed \| Reuters Sounds like American Needle won. WASHINGTON, May 24 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court ruled on Monday, in a dispute over an exclusive licensing deal for sports merchandise, that a lawsuit against the National Football League under federal antitrust law can go forward. Stocks \| Mergers & Acquisitions \| Global Markets In a unanimous decision in the closely watched sports law case, the justices overturned a ruling by a U.S. appeals court in Chicago that had thrown out the lawsuit against the league over its deal on the sale of NFL-branded items like caps and other apparel. The high court's ruling was a victory for American Needle Inc, a clothing manufacturer in Buffalo Grove, Illinois, which argued that the NFL and its 32 teams can be sued under the antitrust laws for signing an exclusive licensing deal with Reebok International in 2001. "We conclude that the NFL's licensing activities constitute concerted action that is not categorically beyond the coverage of" federal antitrust law, Justice John Paul Stevens wrote in the court's opinion. (Reporting by James Vicini, Editing by Gerald E. McCormick)

05-24-2010, 03:24 PM	#35
jgalecpa Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 458	Re: American Needle vs. NFL No kidding. I thought sure of the people who were sure the NFL would win were getting ahead of themselves. When Dan Snyder bought in, he bought "The Redskins', and to think he was buying a share of the NFL as a whole seemed a little beyond the pale. Think the justices got this one right, and it opens a can of worms for other areas, not just hat manufacturers. __________________ Theismann: You're wrong, the rule is wrong, the refs are wrong, and I'm right

05-24-2010, 03:28 PM	#36
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,428	Re: American Needle vs. NFL NFL statement on today’s American Needle decision: “In today’s decision, the Supreme Court recognized that ‘special characteristics’ of professional sports leagues, including the need for competitive balance, ‘may well justify’ business decisions that among independent competitors would otherwise be unlawful. The court noted that the NFL teams’ shared interest in making the league successful and cooperating to produce NFL football provide ‘a perfectly sensible justification for making a host of collective decisions.’ The decision will simply result in American Needle’s claim being sent back to the federal district court in Chicago, where the case will resume in its early stages. We remain confident we will ultimately prevail because the league decision about how best to promote the NFL was reasonable, pro-competitive, and entirely lawful. The Supreme Court’s decision has no bearing on collective bargaining, which is governed by labor law.” nfllabor.com

05-28-2010, 01:26 AM	#37
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: American Needle vs. NFL Good job, CRed. Thank you for the update. I've been wondering what has been going on with this case. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

05-31-2010, 02:53 AM	#39
redskins121684 Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 31	Re: American Needle vs. NFL One thing that might arise out of this is the eclusivity agreement with the NFL and the networks that broadcast the games being considered an antitrust violation. If the Supreme Court is saying that they in effect are 32 competing businesses operating on a competitive basis then what of the DirecTV agreement and the agreements with FOX, NBC, and CBS not to mention NFL Network. The league can't hide behind the Clayton Act exemptions to hand out uniform TV contracts anymore. We could actually see teams selling broadcast rights to the highest bidder individually, that would be awsome because then maybe we see the Skins game and have others available on off networks like versus or comcast or masn, the DirecTV sunday ticket may no longer be necessary.

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