Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Why, y'all just need to send ol' TTE out there to change out that there pipe with a couple of lug nuts and rubber cee-ment! He'll have that bad boy up and running in no time. You and you're know-it-all scintists are just overthinking the problem!

I was trained in the petroleum field in 1997 at the Army Quartermaster School in Fort Lee Virginia. But I'm sure that's just some hay seed institution for cousin banging hicks to you.

I know some guys who can fix this leak.

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[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I just followed the link you posted. The part in bold is actually just a comment from a reader, not an "article." So really it's just some joe shmo totally speculating. Who knows if it's based in any fact whatsoever.

I guess its based on some facts, but the conclusion is pure speculation

Summery:
Will the BP Oil Spill Set Off A Tsunami? [Updated: 6/21 - See Below] | David DeGraw

actual articles:

The Associated Press: Gulf oil full of methane, adding new concerns

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[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I was trained in the petroleum field in 1997 at the Army Quartermaster School in Fort Lee Virginia. But I'm sure that's just some hay seed institution for cousin banging hicks to you.

I know some guys who can fix this leak.

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Are you pro union guy?

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Are you pro union guy?

if he is, thats a real surprise. for the record, i am( not that it matters)

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by budw38

No way a wave would destroy all of Florida , the wave would have to be close to 20,000 ft high , and would need much more sustained wake/power to travel across 300 miles of land . These types of waves usually travel up to five miles inland .

For what it's worth, i dont think that scenario would happen, even though its scientifically possible.

The wave though, would have some power driving it, as they just said last night on TV that the undersea collapse and subsequent pressure explosion would be 2.5 times the force of the Chernobyl nPP explosion.

Even if this stuff never happens, and i pray it won't, it's scary that this scope of a disaster is now scientifically possible, when 3 months ago BP told all of their lies, said the leak was only 3,000 barrels a day, blah blah blah. Now their disaster they caused could potentially kill millions of people, ruin the gulf permanantly, and now destroy most of the entire state of florida.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

For what it's worth, i dont think that scenario would happen, even though its scientifically possible.

The wave though, would have some power driving it, as they just said last night on TV that the undersea collapse and subsequent pressure explosion would be 2.5 times the force of the Chernobyl nPP explosion.

Even if this stuff never happens, and i pray it won't, it's scary that this scope of a disaster is now scientifically possible, when 3 months ago BP told all of their lies, said the leak was only 3,000 barrels a day, blah blah blah. Now their disaster they caused could potentially kill millions of people, ruin the gulf permanantly, and now destroy most of the entire state of florida.

Im not an expert on science , but for the wave / water to maintain enough energy to travel across the entire state , I doubt is possible . I would guess that 20 miles inland would be max . Not to argue with you on this , I hope nothing close ever happens . Oil is a natural commodity that has leaked from our ocean floors for thousands of years , so this just make things much worse because of the amount and location .... I say waterboard the CEO and all guilty parties .

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Are you pro union guy?

It depends on the union and the hall.

[firstdown]

Why doesn't Obama just give this oil skimming ship a free pass by executive order. The EPA has not given it the OK to skim the oil and they also are holding it up because it does not fly an American flag. Here is the part of the article where Obama could step in and let this ship start sucking up oil.


"A large-scale disaster needs a large-scale solution," Su told a crowd of reporters, shipping executives and regulators.

A Whale could handle 500,000 barrels of oily water a day, or slightly less than what all the skimmers now in the Gulf have gathered in more than 60 days on the job, Su said.

A no-brainer? Not quite.

Because the vessel is Taiwanese and was built in South Korea, it needs an exemption from the Jones Act, a federal law requiring commercial ships doing business in U.S. coastal waters to be American-flagged.

Then there are environmental concerns. Because the ship would discharge water back into the Gulf, albeit after much of the oil had been skimmed away, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency must go along with the deal.

Compounding the problem is that A Whale has never actually processed oily water before - though it did pass a recent test in Portugal, where a foaming agent was sucked into the ship's bowels at sea and "did quite nicely," said Bob Grantham, an executive with TMT Group.


Massive oil-skimming ship makes stop in Norfolk | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Why doesn't Obama just give this oil skinning ship a free pass by excutive order. The EPA has not given it the OK to skim the oil and they also are holding it up because it does not fly an American flag. Here is the part of the article where Obama could step in and let this ship start sucking up oil.


"A large-scale disaster needs a large-scale solution," Su told a crowd of reporters, shipping executives and regulators.

A Whale could handle 500,000 barrels of oily water a day, or slightly less than what all the skimmers now in the Gulf have gathered in more than 60 days on the job, Su said.

A no-brainer? Not quite.

Because the vessel is Taiwanese and was built in South Korea, it needs an exemption from the Jones Act, a federal law requiring commercial ships doing business in U.S. coastal waters to be American-flagged.

Then there are environmental concerns. Because the ship would discharge water back into the Gulf, albeit after much of the oil had been skimmed away, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency must go along with the deal.

Compounding the problem is that A Whale has never actually processed oily water before - though it did pass a recent test in Portugal, where a foaming agent was sucked into the ship's bowels at sea and "did quite nicely," said Bob Grantham, an executive with TMT Group.


Massive oil-skimming ship makes stop in Norfolk | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

Okay stop the oil and destroy the environment, like them fake ass sand berms. A 36 inch pipe. Whatever? Everyone is desperate drawing at straws. Should have though about all that when BP was sending them checks. EPA is here for a reason. Them foolsd trying to save the beach they don't care nothing about the fishing or the wild life. Lay down with oil companies you catch spills. Florida should be okay eff Lousiana, Missisippi , and Alabama (because they still want to drill, Florida doesn't want that crap around them).

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Okay stop the oil and destroy the environment, like them fake ass sand berms. A 36 inch pipe. Whatever? Everyone is desperate drawing at straws. Should have though about all that when BP was sending them checks. EPA is here for a reason. Them foolsd trying to save the beach they don't care nothing about the fishing or the wild life. Lay down with oil companies you catch spills. Florida should be okay eff Lousiana, Missisippi , and Alabama (because they still want to drill, Florida doesn't want that crap around them).

Looks like you started drinking early today.

[CRedskinsRule]

So, from a quote in firstdown's article:

Ironically, the ship was originally built as a supertanker for oil. But soon afterward, the BP oil spill began off the Louisiana coast, and Su saw an opportunity.

It seems like this would be an excellent example of private innovation supported by government limiting it's interference to allow for a response to an emergency. I guess what I would see making sense is allowing this thing to run trials on the actual spill area, and pass its certifications while accomplishing the main task. I don't know the whole plan, but if it works it would be a major tool in this type of disaster...

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Looks like you started drinking early today.

How can you tell when he stops?

[over the mountain]

FD or anyone who lives on the water inour area or has gone to ocean city this weekend.

My cousin was at OC this weekend, he said the fishing and marine life was astounding. He said for as far as the eye could see it was full of whiting fish. he said there were guys catching 5-6 foot sharks one after another, he said there were whales no more than 150 yds from shore, etc.

just wondering if all the marine life are migrators from the florida waters.

the way he made it seem, it sounded like a stampede/parade of marine life making its way up north.

[firstdown]

Well I was in Nags Head NC and I did not notice any rush of marine life. I will have to say that I even commented to my wife that the water was as clear as I ever recall over 30 yrs or more of going to this beach and she agreed. Fish do migrate but most do not go much further the SC in their migration. Not sure about the whales migration. I do keep up with the fishing in our area and I have not heard of anything unusual about the fishing season.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So, from a quote in firstdown's article:

It seems like this would be an excellent example of private innovation supported by government limiting it's interference to allow for a response to an emergency. I guess what I would see making sense is allowing this thing to run trials on the actual spill area, and pass its certifications while accomplishing the main task. I don't know the whole plan, but if it works it would be a major tool in this type of disaster...

Yeah every joker that pops up out the blue send them out there. Man please!