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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I also wonder how McNabb would be seen if he wins a SB with us. Consider these career stats:

Elway: 56.9, 4.1, 3.1, 79.9
McNabb: 58.9, 4.4, 2.2, 85.9

Those are Completion %, TD %, INT %, and passer rating.

Elway(15 years) had 35 4th qtr comebacks, and 46 game winning drives (this is his fame)
McNabb(11 years) has 15 4th qtr cb, and 23 game winning drives (clearly not the same caliber)

SB (Pre Shanahan)
Elway (0-3) 86, 87, and 89
McNabb (0-1) '04

Playoff teams(Pre Shanahan)
Elway went 7 seasons out of 12 possible
McNabb went 8 seasons out of 10 possible

Again, I guess my point is that if McNabb gets a SB or 2, in the next 4 years, couldn't you make the case that he is Elway'ish, tho' not Elway.

I actually wanted to piggyback on what you've done here and pull the era contextual stats off of profootballreference to see how McNabb compared with Elway given the inflation of offensive stats since the 80s.

Completion percentage
McNabb = 97
Elway = 101

TD%
McNabb = 105
Elway = 102

INT%
McNabb = 116
Elway = 107

Rating
McNabb = 107
Elway = 105

Y/A
McNabb = 102
Elway = 104

Even adjusting for era, McNabb threw more TDs and fewer INTs than Elway, who completed a greater percentage of his passes, took fewer sacks, and threw for more yards per attempt than McNabb.

Anecdotally, I think Elway's Denver teams pre-Shanahan were very much of the quality of the current Shanahan team, so the downtick in McNabb's numbers this year -- while a small sample -- suggest to me that he's probably a worse QB in many ways than John Elway, who I believe to be kind of a fringy hall of famer (does he get there w/o a SB? Probably would have, but if he had missed in his first few years, I don't see Elway's case getting stronger with time).