Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?

[drew54]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

It's always better to have too much of a good thing than too little...at least in terms of NFL depth.

Especially at TE while ignoring OL and WR in the draft for 10 years, even when they are a position of greater need.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by drew54

Especially at TE while ignoring OL and WR in the draft for 10 years, even when they are a position of greater need.

We have not ignored WR, we just haven't drafted that position well:

2001: 1st round - Rod Gardner
2003: 2nd round - Taylor Jacobs
2008: 2nd round - Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly

Plus

2003: Free Agent - L. Coles
2005: Trade - Santana Moss

If any of the 4 WR's drafted in the first two rounds had become bonafide starters, we would have a decent WR situation with Moss still playing at a relatively high level.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

We have not ignored WR, we just haven't drafted that position well:

2001: 1st round - Rod Gardner
2003: 2nd round - Taylor Jacobs
2008: 2nd round - Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly

Plus

2003: Free Agent - L. Coles
2005: Trade - Santana Moss

If any of the 4 WR's drafted in the first two rounds had become bonafide starters, we would have a decent WR situation with Moss still playing at a relatively high level.

You forgot signing ARE and the big one....trading picks for Brandon Lloyd

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You forgot signing ARE and the big one....trading picks for Brandon Lloyd

Ah yes, how could I forget. Lloyd and ARE may have scored 5 TDs combined as Redskins. That 2006 Free Agent/trade class that included Lloyd, ARE, Duckett and Archuleta ranks up there with the 2008 draft class as unmitigated disasters.

[drew54]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

We have not ignored WR, we just haven't drafted that position well:

2001: 1st round - Rod Gardner
2003: 2nd round - Taylor Jacobs
2004: ...
2005: ...
2006: ...
2007: ...
2008: 2nd round - Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly

Plus

2003: Free Agent - L. Coles
2005: Trade - Santana Moss

If any of the 4 WR's drafted in the first two rounds had become bonafide starters, we would have a decent WR situation with Moss still playing at a relatively high level.

Seriously 2004-2007, four years and not one WR drafted. Yes we brought in free agents, but that was "win now" mode. Then 2008 is catch up mode and and so far none of them have panned out.

It would be nice to see the Colts or Patriots model of drafting and building a team going forward. That is all I was saying.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by drew54

Especially at TE while ignoring OL and WR in the draft for 10 years, even when they are a position of greater need.

Do you understand that concept of uncertainty and why you look like a moron for assuming that simply picking an OL means he has a 100% of success? You have to consider whether the player you're drafting is a ****ing waste of a roster space and time because of the probability they'll flame out. And in hindsight, pretty much all of the OL past the first round were ****ing scrubs, Rhinehart being just one of many.

Did the fact that outside of the 1st round of the 2008 draft, practically all the OL selected were scrubs did not enter your brain?

Oh hell, I believe that we could have stayed in the 1st and drafted Baker, but I'll bet that 99% of the fans would have been screaming for Vinny's head because we "already had Jansen and Samuels".

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Do you understand that concept of uncertainty and why you look like a moron for assuming that simply picking an OL means he has a 100% of success? You have to consider whether the player you're drafting is a ****ing waste of a roster space and time because of the probability they'll flame out. And in hindsight, pretty much all of the OL past the first round were ****ing scrubs, Rhinehart being just one of many.

Did the fact that outside of the 1st round of the 2008 draft, practically all the OL selected were scrubs did not enter your brain?

Oh hell, I believe that we could have stayed in the 1st and drafted Baker, but I'll bet that 99% of the fans would have been screaming for Vinny's head because we "already had Jansen and Samuels".

Going into the 2008 draft, even the casual fan knew the Skins needed to upgrade OL depth since Jansen and Randy Thomas were showing wear and tear, going down for the previous season in games 1 and 3, respectively. Staying in the 1st round and drafting OL would have been the wise choice. Vinny compounded that mistake of trading out of the 1st round by botching the additional 2nd round picks we received.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Going into the 2008 draft, even the casual fan knew the Skins needed to upgrade OL depth since Jansen and Randy Thomas were showing wear and tear, going down for the previous season in games 1 and 3, respectively. Staying in the 1st round and drafting OL would have been the wise choice. Vinny compounded that mistake of trading out of the 1st round by botching the additional 2nd round picks we received.

Yeah, Vinny just bungled it royally either way. We could have had Royal and Jackson. We got Thomas and Kelly.

We could have had Chris Johnson, Sam Baker, or Rashard Mendenhall had we stayed in the first round. We just simply missed out on playmakers. Yeah, CP was here, but we would have had no need to commit more picks to RBs in the next 5 years at the very least.