Rifts between Shanahan and Snyder?

[MTK]

The fans are clearly in the lead when it comes to pure lunacy. Just the thought of wanting to get rid of Shanahan right now is laugh out loud hilarious.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The fans are clearly in the lead when it comes to pure lunacy. Just the thought of wanting to get rid of Shanahan right now is laugh out loud hilarious.

Well when you sweat blood for a team that can put both Albert Haynesworth and Donovan McNabb on the bench in the same season, it's no wonder some of us fans are loony.

That scenario would not happen on any other team in the NFL.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The fans are clearly in the lead when it comes to pure lunacy. Just the thought of wanting to get rid of Shanahan right now is laugh out loud hilarious.

I think most fans are intelligent enough to realize that Shanahan needs more than one year. But after seeing this guy for a year he just seems like a total dick to work for and has isses with communication.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think most fans are intelligent enough to realize that Shanahan needs more than one year. But after seeing this guy for a year he just seems like a total dick to work for and has isses with communication.

On the outside looking in, Pro Football Talk tabloid type of stuff, sure it could look that way.

But that's not the impression you get from the majority of players, former and current.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think most fans are intelligent enough to realize that Shanahan needs more than one year. But after seeing this guy for a year he just seems like a total dick to work for and has isses with communication.

I don't get that from the players at all. And Mark Schlereth has remarked....many times of the respect and admiration he has for Shanny. How much fun he had playing for him.
I think it must be more of a case of that intuitive....."fan" intelligence channeling evil thoughts in the Shannahan camp?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I don't get that from the players at all. And Mark Schlereth has remarked....many times of the respect and admiration he has for Shanny. How much fun he had playing for him.
I think it must be more of a case of that intuitive....."fan" intelligence channeling evil thoughts in the Shannahan camp?

Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.

Probably more like for every 100 Schlereth's, there's a Plummer.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.

Letting his son run the offense...as if is his son was a 3rd grade social studies teacher who Mike Shanahan just plucked out of class one day to run the offense

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Letting his son run the offense...as if is his son was a 3rd grade social studies teacher who Mike Shanahan just plucked out of class one day to run the offense

Or a bingo caller.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Or a bingo caller.

Well...in the interest of accuracy, I believe our Offense did improve after the Bingo Caller's arrival?
He was a natural at sending in the play!
B-32, A-15......

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well for every Mark Schlereth there's a Jake Plummer. Year one I'm just not impressed with the guy. From the way he handled McNabb, to how he insisted on running a 3-4, to his letting his son run the offense. Let's see how the off season goes and next year. I'm interested to see which direction they go. Chase a bunch off FA's??? ... which I think is what they're going to do, or try and rebuild, ... which I think they should do.

I think one of the challenges for some fans with Shanny is his apparent utter disregard for the media and their biological tendency to...run with every ridiculous nano-story, real or imagined.
He does NOT appear to care what you think. I'm good with that....so be it.
I want a coach with old school discipline and expectiations......
I don't think he feels he owes the media...anything. I don't think he really cares what they print (more or less) Leave me to my coaching thing kind of guy. He did not sign on to be a.....media darling. I'm good with that as well

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I think one of the challenges for some fans with Shanny is his apparent utter disregard for the media and their biological tendency to...run with every ridiculous nano-story, real or imagined.
He does NOT appear to care what you think. I'm good with that....so be it.
I want a coach with old school discipline and expectiations......
I don't think he feels he owes the media...anything. I don't think he really cares what they print (more or less) Leave me to my coaching thing kind of guy. He did not sign on to be a.....media darling. I'm good with that as well

It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.

Well that doesn't make any sense at all. I would not want a coach that doesn't think his scheme is better for the team.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.

He's the coach.
Whether the fan base, media, or ALMOST anybody else agree's or not...........THAT is what he gets paid to do. Do that Coaching shit...make coaching decisions. Right or wrong....popular or un-popular. At some point in time his boss (and hopefully he has more patience and foresight than the idiotic fan base) will decide if he has been successful enough and won enough games to continue.....

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It has nothing to do with media. I'm cool with discipline. But I'm not cool with someone who thinks running a 3-4 is better for the team just cause he thinks so.

I've heard there is two ways of thinking;

1- is the team slowly transitions to whatever scheme the HC is looking to run, which might work or it might not.

Or

2- go all in and hope it works out. This method usually brings the learning curve across better and faster. I'm guessing this was the train of thought and with the thought AH would return and dominate the middle of the defense. Instead we got a disgruntled player acting like a little leager throwing a tantrum and refusing to participate. I'm also hedging a bet that they thought Kemo would be better then he was. But at this point they were already all in.

Haslett said to the media it took the Steelers about 3 yrs to be dominant after switching from the 4-3 to the 3-4. Next year the defense will be better with a few key pick ups and then yr 3 ..... SB. Plus don't think for a moment Haslett didn't tell MS this very thing. Coaches are meticulous so I'm sure they talked about it and decided the path they took.