Andy Reid or Mike Shanahan? Eagles President takes shot at Shanny

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

TO ran himself out of town once they wouldn't pay him. However, he made that team better right away, he was at his prime then. The Eagles didn't have a good WR threat until they got D. Jackson.

The Eagles are a young team at the skills position except QB. I guess it all depends on Vick's health, I say this because he was beat up in that playoff game. If Vick lasts at QB, then the Eagles would be a contender. But I feel that he was pretty beat up as the season ended.

Are you on TO's PR staff?

[Monkeydad]

[44ever]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

True. He needs more time. But so far in his one year, I think he's made some bad moves, both on the coaching front and front office stuff.

I agree.

[bigdaddy2348]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Banner: If Mike Shanahan can win two Super Bowls, Andy Reid can too | ProFootballTalk

I think Reid is a good coach but should he have won "multiple super bowls"? I don't know about that. Seems like the pressure is as big as ever for him in Philly. I don't see him winning a title there

Andy has had 10 years to do it and he hasn't. If he would have drafted a top notch running back instead of these gadget backs (Westbrook is the first name that comes to mind) and really dedicated the team to running the ball. Also see what happen when they had a real wide out like T.O. Although he is a idiot he still took them to the house, and played on a broken leg, but they didn’t want to pay him. He was a distraction wah wah wah that’s why the Eagles will always be a joke to me and they will never win anything. They try to win with no name pieces and this has worked for them in the regular season, however we see what happens to them in the playoffs where it really counts.

[MTK]

Buster has it right, in the end all MS has to say to this crap is check the scoreboard.

Shanahan 2 Reid 0.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Are you on TO's PR staff?

No, what makes you say that? Because I have an opinion different than everyone's on this specific issue?

[saden1]

Someone tell them the reason Andy hasn't won a Super Bowl is because his offense is a fcking gimmick. Let's see, last year it was screens to McCoy, Jackson on a go route, run with Vick, draw with McCoy peppered with a few slants here and there. Handy Andy will never win a super bowl when facing a good defense which is usually what you face in the playoffs.

Don't talk shit about a man who has won two super bowls and coaches in your division. There is no benefit in doing so.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

No, what makes you say that? Because I have an opinion different than everyone's on this specific issue?

JK, but the reason I said it was because although TO's departure had to do w/him wanting to renegotiate his contract for more $, in the end it had as much or more to do w/his destructive behavior.

I will agree w/you in that at the time he was a top wr in the nfl, but at the time he started to 'negotiate' he'd already dissed his qb publicly. Both before & after his time w/philly he exhibited this behavior.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by saden1

Someone tell them the reason Andy hasn't won a Super Bowl is because his offense is a fcking gimmick. Let's see, last year it was screens to McCoy, Jackson on a go route, run with Vick, draw with McCoy peppered with a few slants here and there. Handy Andy will never win a super bowl when facing a good defense which is usually what you face in the playoffs.

Don't talk shit about a man who has won two super bowls and coaches in your division. There is no benefit to doing so.

That gimmick offense broke records on our sorry ass d this year, i know we won the first game but they darn sure made up for it in the second one. And again all the bashers on here would love to have AR as our coach!!!!

[CrustyRedskin]

Your only as good as your last performance.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Your only as good as your last performance.

That makes Gibbs suck.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

JK, but the reason I said it was because although TO's departure had to do w/him wanting to renegotiate his contract for more $, in the end it had as much or more to do w/his destructive behavior.

I will agree w/you in that at the time he was a top wr in the nfl, but at the time he started to 'negotiate' he'd already dissed his qb publicly. Both before & after his time w/philly he exhibited this behavior.

Gotcha. I know TO has his antics (hell, who doesn't know that) but he was a hell of a WR at that time, and if things had worked out the Eagles would have been a contender.

[SolidSnake84]

This is kind of a pot calling the kettle black type of debate.

There is some busting on Reid here for not winning a superbowl during his time with the eagles...Andy Reid with Jeff Lurie has achieved 1 superbowl appearance, countless NFC Championships. Andy Reid has had only 2 truly poor season, his first as coach, and the second coming when he lost McNabb in 2005 and had no capable backup QB. Almost every year they make the playoffs.

Dan Snyder, with his revolving door of coaches, has had only 3 playoff appearances. A losing season each year except for 1999, 2005, and 2007. Never had an NFC Championship with Snyder. Will likely never have a SB with Danny as owner. I find it laughable that anybody would bash Reid and the eagles, while comparing them to Dan Snyder and the Redskins.

[diehardskin2982]

It is easy to take a shot at the last placed team in the division. Once things are turned around we will smash the eagles twice on the way to the superbowl.

Until Philly wins one then they can talk. If you count Shanny's two that's a total of 5 superbowls between franchise and coach to zero in philly with Reid. That dude needs some class!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

That gimmick offense broke records on our sorry ass d this year, i know we won the first game but they darn sure made up for it in the second one. And again all the bashers on here would love to have AR as our coach!!!!

Our D was also ranked last in the NFL. So what's your point?