Ron Paul to Run for President

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

But see Beemnseven that logic is sort of flawed because you presuppose that the world operates according to the same moral code; that the law of morality always, in every circumstance, trumps immoral and sinister deeds. And more importantly that the United States is insulated from the rest of the world.

We don't live in a society where everything goes from A to B - where good always overcomes evil. The premise of your argument actually suggests, on some level, that evil doesn't exist. And that if we mind our business other people will mind theirs. That's not good policy, it's not good diplomacy, and I'm not sure it's even constitutional.

Maybe I'm reading too much into your statement, but I'm not convinced that Ron Paul, or you for that matter, would stand up for America based on some strict constitutional requirement. In other words, if the choices are should the government run a prolonged military operation or draw the line in the sand and give up because of how we interpret the constitution, then I don't like Ron Paul's vision for America.

Give me George W. Bush any day of the week, warts and all, to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. When our sovereignty is under siege and our freedoms are in jeopardy, I don't want a leader to interpret the Constitution, I want a leader to defend and protect it at all costs.

Wow, man, where do I start?

Where did the idea get started that Ron Paul wouldn't defend America? He's not a pacifist, and neither am I. The philosophy of non-intervention certainly isn't based on the notion that evil doesn't exist. And interpreting the Constitution doesn't mean we lay down and do nothing if we're attacked. I really struggle to see how you've arrived that conclusion.

Where and when has our sovereignty EVER been under siege in the middle east? If anything, we have rammed "our sovereignty" up the ass of every Arab man, woman, and child for the past 60 years. They finally decide that they don't like it, and when they respond, Americans are mortified and cry that they just don't understand how anyone could strike at such a freedom, and peace-loving society like ours.

Marching all over the world, and acting like the police chief of the planet Earth isn't 'national defense'. It pisses people off, and we shouldn't be surprised when it comes back to bite us.

Clearly we have to convince both sides of the political spectrum this basic truth.