Pretend you are the Skins' GM...

[musicmaster45]

No samuel is getting older

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

No samuel is getting older

I think - - I would need time to verify this to be sure - - that each and every player on the Skins roster is also getting older. That phenomenon might actually apply to the entire NFL. [/sarcasm]

[vallin21]

Pass... rather sign Hayden

[SmootSmack]

I'd rather send a pick to Kansas City for Brandon Carr

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, first, I think Torain is in that "traded because he won't make the team" category along with Holliday and Jarmon.

And the third round pick, yeah, you'd probably be best off holding onto those. Unless you're buying low on Asante Samuel and weakening the Eagles in the process. The McNabb trade was bad because, among many other reasons, we were solving a major intangible logjam at the QB position for the Eagles, helping them both get better in the short term and move on from McNabb as a depth chart obstruction.

But Samuel isn't a depth chart obstruction. He's a second corner on a team with super bowl aspirations and two no. 1 corners. He'd also fit our scheme really well.

Also, with three years on his contract, it's not like giving up a second round pick for the last two years of an aging Jason Taylor's contract when the team didn't actually have cap room. It's about finding the right price. A runner who is useless to us and a third round pick seems like a good price for a guy who would be our no. 1 CB.

Now come on, isn't that selling Torain a bit short? I know he's not the greatest all around back, considering he's not great at pass blocking and he doesn't play ST, but he does have some ability as a runner.

[skinsfaninok]

nope

[JoeRedskin]

And Vinny says ...

Next year's first and Orakpo! We are just a corner away!!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mooby

Now come on, isn't that selling Torain a bit short? I know he's not the greatest all around back, considering he's not great at pass blocking and he doesn't play ST, but he does have some ability as a runner.

Not really. The day we admit we can't do better than Ryan Torain (easily and cheaply) would be the day we give up the idea of being a rush-first football team.

Not to mention we just traded for Hightower two days ago.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd rather send a pick to Kansas City for Brandon Carr

Well, I would too, for both reasons relating to personal values and player values. He's probably a better player than Samuel as well.

But I wouldn't think a 2012 third rounder would net us a no. 1 CB who is just 26.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not really. The day we admit we can't do better than Ryan Torain (easily and cheaply) would be the day we give up the idea of being a rush-first football team.

Not to mention we just traded for Hightower two days ago.

Whoa now I'm not saying we can't do better than Torain, as that's far from the truth. Hightower might even beat out Torain, and if that's the case, we could end up seeing us trade Torain since the combo of Hightower and Helu might be all we need. But Hightower does have a case of the fumblitis that needs to be resolved. All I'm saying is Torain is a decent running back. But you are right that in this day and age, that might not be enough to warrant a spot on the team. Especially when he's injury prone.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not really. The day we admit we can't do better than Ryan Torain (easily and cheaply) would be the day we give up the idea of being a rush-first football team.

Not to mention we just traded for Hightower two days ago.

Have you even watched a Redskins game in the past year?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Have you even watched a Redskins game in the past year?

You know, I think Tripp may have watched a game or two last year, maybe some tape, perhaps broke down film, maybe did a write up somewhere ...

Perhaps I'm thinking of someone else.



(Sorry, the facepalming is starting to annoy me, so I thought I'd strike back).

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Have you even watched a Redskins game in the past year?

Yay for youtube clips of fringe roster players!

Can I get a Kory Lichtensteiger highlight reel? Dirtbag? Anyone?

[NC_Skins]

If I were the GM, the first order of business would for me to hire Dirtbag59 to head up the film/video department.



...oh, this is about a crappy Eagle. Nope, I'd pass. Too much money and it would require giving out draft picks which I loathe doing.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mooby

Whoa now I'm not saying we can't do better than Torain, as that's far from the truth. Hightower might even beat out Torain, and if that's the case, we could end up seeing us trade Torain since the combo of Hightower and Helu might be all we need. But Hightower does have a case of the fumblitis that needs to be resolved. All I'm saying is Torain is a decent running back. But you are right that in this day and age, that might not be enough to warrant a spot on the team. Especially when he's injury prone.

I don't know if I'd disagree with the assessment that Torain is or can be a decent running back. He just is very limited by his inability to consistently go forward and turn the outside stretches into long TD runs.

He can move the chains for an NFL offense, which is valuable, but probably not worth a roster spot unless he can add value on special teams or by pass blocking.