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Grossman 66 51.56%
Hightower 3 2.34%
Moss 11 8.59%
Davis 29 22.66%
Fletcher 10 7.81%
Kerrigan 69 53.91%
other 5 3.91%
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:31 PM   #106
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:32 PM   #107
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He's made the Pro Bowl 2x, I think everyone is well aware of him. Just because he didn't get a sack didn't mean he had a quiet game. He had plenty of pressure and blocked the FG.
Honestly I feel like his sacks come in spurts. In the entire second half of the season last year he had like 1 sack, and that was after an excellent first half with like 7. That's not consistent.

He's a good pass rusher but we might see Kerrigan start getting more recognition because Kerrigan has more moves that he can use to beat the tackle. Which isn't a bad thing of course.

Also on a side note did anybody else notice at the end of the game that Orakpo and Kerrigan were playing DE in a 4-3 and they shifted Carriker to the inside on that sack he had? Now that's something I think we can all agree on is a good move.
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He's made the Pro Bowl 2x, I think everyone is well aware of him. Just because he didn't get a sack didn't mean he had a quiet game. He had plenty of pressure and blocked the FG.
He was also battling through a sprained ankle. He wasn't 100%.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:33 PM   #109
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Honestly I feel like his sacks come in spurts. In the entire second half of the season last year he had like 1 sack, and that was after an excellent first half with like 7. That's not consistent.
He's not consistent because he hasn't developed any other moves (or learned to use his hands) since coming into the league. They need to bring in Kevin Greene (who worked with Clay Matthews) to coach this guy up right.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:39 PM   #111
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He's not consistent because he hasn't developed any other moves (or learned to use his hands) since coming into the league. They need to bring in Kevin Greene (who worked with Clay Matthews) to coach this guy up right.
Exactly. All he's got is the bullrush. When it works it works, but the best pass rushers in the league have different moves they can use so tackles don't know what to expect. When a tackle is sitting there knowing he's going to bullrush it just makes it harder on Rak.

I realize I'm nitpicking but I think Orakpo still has a lot to learn. I'm just really tired of seeing Orakpo turn the corner only to be yanked backwards by his neck by the offensive lineman who got beat, and then watching the refs do nothing about it. They're not gonna call it, and it's really minimizing Orakpo's value.
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:43 PM   #112
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Of course he has a lot to learn, he is a college DE in his third year in the pros and just second year as a fulltime stand up OLB. He will be more than fine, he just has to work on his craft. Remember through their first two years Orakpo and Ware have the same # of sacks
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:20 AM   #114
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Kerrigan's play was a momentum changer. Skins took control of the game at that point. NICE PLAY rookie !!!
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:55 AM   #115
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:29 PM   #116
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Rex - solid game overall. Still had spurts of "bad Rex" but they were few.

Davis - been in my doghouse for years but he had a great game. Held every ball (even thru serious contact), and his routes/cuts seem sharper this year. One game isn't enough but a couple more like this and he'll be out of my doghouse (likely replacement is TW )

Kerrigan/Neild/entire D - great job. Kerrigan's play was huge and turned the whole game. And Neild... wow. All in all was very impressed, especially with our speed and quickness.

There were other studs as well. Great win.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:11 AM   #117
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Besides the obvious I would give Armstrong an A for his tremendous effort. Great CB play stopped him from having a monster day.

Doughty is still a goat on coverage. LL can't comeback soon enough.
All this hate for doughty. I like him as depth. good strong safety. Might not be the best in coverage, but good tackler and a natural football player. Seems to understand the game well. LL is one of my top two favorite redskins. But the reason I love him is his greatest downfall, him going 100% on every play. I doubt even after he comes back, he'll stay healthy. Get used to doughty. I'm not too down on him as a second strong safety, things could be worse.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:15 AM   #118
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I also wanna say how upset I am at Jenkins's injury. I thought he was gonna be an absolute stud. I'm still not sold on our D-line depth. I feel in today's nfl depth is the most important part of football (besides qb of course). Look at the packers, their receivers aren't all top tier, but their receiving depth makes them incredible, it doesn't matter who is on the field, they can get the job done. I am optimistic about the redskins, but would be SIGNIFICANTLY more so if Jenkins were around. I know its only one player, but one loss makes a big impact imo.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:19 AM   #119
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sorry for the tripple post, but i have a question. Everyone is saying how good neild played. I unfortunately didn't get to see the whole game. He didn't impress in pre-season, so it strikes me as odd that his stats came out to two sacks. I'm not sold on him yet. I'm thinking odds are the giants o-line is deteriorating and neild was also the benefactor of other players creating opportunities for him (like maybe orakpo put pressure on manning and flushed him into neild).

Can anyone who studies the tape tell me if neild actually had good push or good penetration on a CONSISTANT basis? If we can rely on him to be a positive contributor?
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:33 AM   #120
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sorry for the tripple post, but i have a question. Everyone is saying how good neild played. I unfortunately didn't get to see the whole game. He didn't impress in pre-season, so it strikes me as odd that his stats came out to two sacks. I'm not sold on him yet. I'm thinking odds are the giants o-line is deteriorating and neild was also the benefactor of other players creating opportunities for him (like maybe orakpo put pressure on manning and flushed him into neild).

Can anyone who studies the tape tell me if neild actually had good push or good penetration on a CONSISTANT basis? If we can rely on him to be a positive contributor?
Ive seen the game twice, and while he didnt pressure on every play, he did get considerable push most of the time, Id say even more than Cofield did. He hurried Manning quite a bit and looked alot more solid than we have had in the past. In short he doesnt get pushed around, and has chances to impose his will on o0pposing lineman.
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