Around The NFL week 2

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

what about it isn't cheating?

So what is the difference of maybe not getting off another player when the play is over to run off time,maybe the ball rolls away from the ref....anything to take time away from the other team,clock management.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So what is the difference of maybe not getting off another player when the play is over to run off time,maybe the ball rolls away from the ref....anything to take time away from the other team,clock management.

Well to be honest the player who sits on the opponent trying to kill time or rolls the ball away from the ref can get hit with a delay of game and penalized yards. Maybe that's how the refs should look at players faking injuries (ie; good plays by Giants fans).

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Well to be honest the player who sits on the opponent trying to kill time or rolls the ball away from the ref can get hit with a delay of game and penalized yards. Maybe that's how the refs should look at players faking injuries (ie; good plays by Giants fans).

I like that. If the ref judges that you are faking, a five yard penalty is applied. That would help to cut down on faking.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I like that. If the ref judges that you are faking, a five yard penalty is applied. That would help to cut down on faking.

Wait...are we still talking about football here?

[JoeRedskin]

Didn't see it happen but, if it did, they should be penalized. The players fined and the team either fined or forfiet a draft pick. B. Ryan's teams were famous for it and it is why they instituted the rule that a stoppage for injury in the last two minutes costs you a time out.

The rules allow stoppages for "injured players" not fake injured players:

"TIMING: ... 4. The Referee will allow necessary time to attend to an injured player, or repair a legal player's equipment."
NFL Rules

Inside the last two minutes, you get one extra "mulligan" for an injured player but after that, you are penalized 5 yards for clock stoppages caused by injuries.

"TIMING IN THE LAST TWO MINUTES: ... 2. A team cannot buy an excess time out for a penalty. However, a fourth time out is allowed without penalty for an injured player, who must be removed immediately. A fifth time out or more is allowed for an injury and a five-yard penalty is assessed if the clock was running. Additionally, if the clock was running and the score is tied or the team in possession is losing, the ball cannot be put in play for at least 10 seconds on the fourth or more time out. The half or game can end while those 10 seconds are run off on the clock."
NFL Rules

Faking an injury to stop the is not the same as the quarterback running the clock down or the ref dropping the ball. In the first case, the play is permitted and explicitly allowed by the rules:

"TIMING: ... 6. Time between plays will be 40 seconds from the end of a given play until the snap of the ball for the next play, or a 25-second interval after certain administrative stoppages and game delays."
NFL Rules

Teams may use less than the 40 allotted seconds but they are not permitted to use more and are penalized for doing so. As to the ref dropping the ball, it's an unintentional act by an non-participant in the game and is not an attempt to gain an unfair competitive advantage by one side or the other.

At a minimun, faking an injury to stop the clock or give your team a breather - being a deceitful act to gain an unfair competitive advantage in the game - should be an unsportsmanlike conduct foul with a resultant 15 yard penalty if caught in game.

[NC_Skins]

Hey guys! How about those Redskins!!

[Alvin Walton]

Please dont talk about soccer, it makes my roids act up.

[NC_Skins]

In other news, looks like Carlos Rogers is being....well....Carlos Rogers. Except now, the new and improved Carlos bounces INTs off his head as well as his hands.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

In other news, looks like Carlos Rogers is being....well....Carlos Rogers. Except now, the new and improved Carlos bounces INTs off his head as well as his hands

Has anyone else noticed that dropped Int's are the worse possible thing that can happen on defense. I have no idea what it is about them but it seems to me every time a defense drops an Interception the best they can hope for afterwards is only giving up a third or fourth down conversion. I've observed this phenomenon all the way down to the high school level.

[budw38]

LOL about Rogers , I did hear that it was Rogers hit that put Romo down ?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by budw38

LOL about Rogers , I did hear that it was Rogers hit that put Romo down ?

Yeah, and he choked by getting burnt by some Jesse Holle dude. Thank god we don't have him anymore so that he'll bite on a few MORE double moves on Monday Night.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Yeah, and he choked by getting burnt by some Jesse Holle dude. Thank god we don't have him anymore so that he'll bite on a few MORE double moves on Monday Night.

Actually it was Whitner who had the deep coverage and got beaten by Holley.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Actually it was Whitner who had the deep coverage and got beaten by Holley.

I believe they both were responsible. They both fell for the play fake. Carlos was absolutely frozen, and of course, Michael Irvin's reality show boy finally produces for the Pukes.

Jesse Holley 77 yd catch & celebration -...

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Yeah, and he choked by getting burnt by some Jesse Holle dude. Thank god we don't have him anymore so that he'll bite on a few MORE double moves on Monday Night.

Nope, as much as people want Rogers to fail it wasn't his fault. He actually had a pretty good game and did some hitting, just ask Witten and Romo.

[SFREDSKIN]

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