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SmootSmack · 10-17-2011, 05:47 AM

You read the forum rules! You're a rare breed. Kudos. I'm not sure anyone has said Rex is the reason we are 3-1. But I would say that I am one of those who has said benching Rex when we're 3-1 for an unproven Beck when evidence shows we can't put ALL out blame on Rex seems like a potentially risky proposition. I'm rooting for Beck if he's playing. But just because I'm not 100% comfortable making the switch to him doesn't mean I don't know football.

zeesson · 10-17-2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You read the forum rules! You're a rare breed. Kudos. I'm not sure anyone has said Rex is the reason we are 3-1. But I would say that I am one of those who has said benching Rex when we're 3-1 for an unproven Beck when evidence shows we can't put ALL out blame on Rex seems like a potentially risky proposition. I'm rooting for Beck if he's playing. But just because I'm not 100% comfortable making the switch to him doesn't mean I don't know football.

Oh no, I didn't mean to imply that anyone who thought that way were idiots, just the ones who only had that to say. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

irish · 10-17-2011, 07:02 AM

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I don't agree.. I think Rex's arm is overrated. Beck has the better arm of the two QB's in my opinion and a faster release.

REx's arm isnt his problem, he's too short. IMO he really struggles to see over the line and down the field. I think his lack of vision is what causes most of his INTs.

I dont have a problem with them swapping in Beck (if I was HC I wouldnt do it just yet) but I dont expect the QB production to change much for the better or worse with Beck.

44ever · 10-17-2011, 08:03 AM

I think at this point we all know Rex is not the answer so lets move on. Beck may or may not take us to the playoffs but he may not hinder the development of the team as a whole. Rex was setting the "same ol Redskins" mentality IMO. In both players and fans.

The players believed in the team this year, some of them actually made bold predictions to the point of a possible SB run. If Beck can at the least just play solid, he may give us that spark back and allow for further development of the players around him.

Beck should have been given the entire 2nd half of the Eagles game. I think he made the most of the little time had.

There is something about Beck I believe in...

skinsfaninok · 10-17-2011, 08:10 AM

Beck faces a bad panthers and bills Defense the next 2 weeks let's see if he can get us going

44ever · 10-17-2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Beck faces a bad panthers and bills Defense the next 2 weeks let's see if he can get us going

Step 1. Lets hope it's Beck and not Grossman...

Jontrem · 10-17-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 44ever

Step 1. Lets hope it's Beck and not Grossman...

Yes I have an odd feeling that Shanny is going to come out in defense of Rex and name him the starter for this week. I think most of us will shake our heads at the move but we have to believe that Shanny knows more than we do about the QBs, right?

MTK · 10-17-2011, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 44ever

Step 1. Lets hope it's Beck and not Grossman...

It's gotta be Beck.

The Rexy reclamation project didn't work, now they have 2nd chance to bring a QB back from the ashes.

Chief X_Phackter · 10-17-2011, 08:58 AM

I wasn't a fan of replacing Rex a week ago, but what a difference a week makes. I don't think you can put Rex back out there after that performance yesterday, and given the fact that Beck came in and provided a slight spark and gave the team a chance. Beck's overall performance was a little shaky too, but with a full week's reps with the first team and executing the game plan in practice I think he has to produce better results (at least not worse - I hope) than we have received from Rexy.

Of course I don't think you can just keep flip-flopping your QBs so I would expect this team to live or die with Beck now...unless he gets injured.

44ever · 10-17-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's gotta be Beck.

The Rexy reclamation project didn't work, now they have 2nd chance to bring a QB back from the ashes.

That would make a sweet story.

Jontrem · 10-17-2011, 09:07 AM

Beck can do more with his feet and with two starting Olinemen down I think that is going to be key in the next few weeks.

SmootSmack · 10-17-2011, 09:10 AM

If Beck does anything, the fact we got him for Doug Dutch will make it one of the best trades ever

JoeRedskin · 10-17-2011, 09:12 AM

I was pushing for Beck in the offseason b/c I felt like we knew Grossman's limitations and that we had a large enough sample size that we knew he was going to cost us some games. Many people made the same argument.

Many people pushed for Grossman b/c they felt Beck has had ample opportunity to show he could start but he failed to take the job in his prior stops or even show enough to rate as a good solid number 2 guy and that, based on his inability, he simple could not succeed as a QB.

My fear is that both arguments were 100% right. We've already seen that the Rex dissenters were pretty damn close to right on.

44ever · 10-17-2011, 09:24 AM

Shanahan mum on whether Redskins will switch to John Beck after Rex Grossman's poor showing - The Insider - The Washington Post

Washington Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan declined to say whether the switch to John Beck is permanent or was just for the final quarter of the 20-13 loss to the Eagles. Instead the coach said that the decision wouldn’t be made until Wednesday.

“I would never announce that right after a game,” Shanahan said. “I would announce that later on in the week. We’ll make a decision after looking at the film.”

Lotus · 10-17-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I was pushing for Beck in the offseason b/c I felt like we knew Grossman's limitations and that we had a large enough sample size that we knew he was going to cost us some games. Many people made the same argument.

Many people pushed for Grossman b/c they felt Beck has had ample opportunity to show he could start but he failed to take the job in his prior stops or even show enough to rate as a good solid number 2 guy and that, based on his inability, he simple could not succeed as a QB.

My fear is that both arguments were 100% right. We've already seen that the Rex dissenters were pretty damn close to right on.

You can't argue that both are bad. It's one or the other! You're an idiot.

:cheeky-sm

10-17-2011, 05:47 AM	#466
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread You read the forum rules! You're a rare breed. Kudos. I'm not sure anyone has said Rex is the reason we are 3-1. But I would say that I am one of those who has said benching Rex when we're 3-1 for an unproven Beck when evidence shows we can't put ALL out blame on Rex seems like a potentially risky proposition. I'm rooting for Beck if he's playing. But just because I'm not 100% comfortable making the switch to him doesn't mean I don't know football. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-17-2011, 08:03 AM	#469
44ever Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Fortune Teller Posts: 2,512	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread I think at this point we all know Rex is not the answer so lets move on. Beck may or may not take us to the playoffs but he may not hinder the development of the team as a whole. Rex was setting the "same ol Redskins" mentality IMO. In both players and fans. The players believed in the team this year, some of them actually made bold predictions to the point of a possible SB run. If Beck can at the least just play solid, he may give us that spark back and allow for further development of the players around him. Beck should have been given the entire 2nd half of the Eagles game. I think he made the most of the little time had. There is something about Beck I believe in...

10-17-2011, 08:10 AM	#470
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,174	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread Beck faces a bad panthers and bills Defense the next 2 weeks let's see if he can get us going __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

10-17-2011, 08:58 AM	#474
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,635	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread I wasn't a fan of replacing Rex a week ago, but what a difference a week makes. I don't think you can put Rex back out there after that performance yesterday, and given the fact that Beck came in and provided a slight spark and gave the team a chance. Beck's overall performance was a little shaky too, but with a full week's reps with the first team and executing the game plan in practice I think he has to produce better results (at least not worse - I hope) than we have received from Rexy. Of course I don't think you can just keep flip-flopping your QBs so I would expect this team to live or die with Beck now...unless he gets injured.

10-17-2011, 09:07 AM	#476
Jontrem Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 608	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread Beck can do more with his feet and with two starting Olinemen down I think that is going to be key in the next few weeks.

10-17-2011, 09:10 AM	#477
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread If Beck does anything, the fact we got him for Doug Dutch will make it one of the best trades ever __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-17-2011, 09:12 AM	#478
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread I was pushing for Beck in the offseason b/c I felt like we knew Grossman's limitations and that we had a large enough sample size that we knew he was going to cost us some games. Many people made the same argument. Many people pushed for Grossman b/c they felt Beck has had ample opportunity to show he could start but he failed to take the job in his prior stops or even show enough to rate as a good solid number 2 guy and that, based on his inability, he simple could not succeed as a QB. My fear is that both arguments were 100% right. We've already seen that the Rex dissenters were pretty damn close to right on. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

10-17-2011, 09:24 AM	#479
44ever Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Fortune Teller Posts: 2,512	Re: Start John Beck Madness Thread Shanahan mum on whether Redskins will switch to John Beck after Rex Grossman's poor showing - The Insider - The Washington Post Washington Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan declined to say whether the switch to John Beck is permanent or was just for the final quarter of the 20-13 loss to the Eagles. Instead the coach said that the decision wouldn’t be made until Wednesday. “I would never announce that right after a game,” Shanahan said. “I would announce that later on in the week. We’ll make a decision after looking at the film.” Last edited by 44ever; 10-17-2011 at 09:25 AM.

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