What's up with the cops these days?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I guess no one that sells drugs ever carries a gun and they would never use them. Cops have families and want to make it home alive. The minute they let their guard down is when something bad happens.

I just think that almost all of the tackles and take downs i see on Cops are completely unnecessary. When someone is completely unaware that they are under arrest or gives up once they are being placed under arrest i dont think its necessary to tackle and slam them to the ground. Everyone thats not engaging in violent behavior should be given the option to surrender themselves without being assulted first.

[mlmpetert]

Surveillance Video Shows Cop Tasering Keshana Wilson in Allentown | Video | TheBlaze.com

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I just think that almost all of the tackles and take downs i see on Cops are completely unnecessary. When someone is completely unaware that they are under arrest or gives up once they are being placed under arrest i dont think its necessary to tackle and slam them to the ground. Everyone thats not engaging in violent behavior should be given the option to surrender themselves without being assulted first.

I'll agree with you there are times I've seen some tackles and wondered... uh, why did they go through all that? but keep in mind we the people might not be getting all the information from the show that the police have. My example might be that the police were informed that the suspect has had several previous arrests, or they might have been known to fight the police from a previous arrest. Under those situations they will not give the suspect an opportunity to do anything. It's all about police safety.

Another issue is most drug users or dealers don't want to get caught and will most likely run with the attempt to throw the drug away (losing evidence) or they might try to swallow the drug to get rid of evidence. The whole point of doing what your saying is obsurd is to catch the bad guy off guard and get him to the ground with out having to chase him, fight him, or tazer him.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'll agree with you there are times I've seen some tackles and wondered... uh, why did they go through all that? but keep in mind we the people might not be getting all the information from the show that the police have. My example might be that the police were informed that the suspect has had several previous arrests, or they might have been known to fight the police from a previous arrest. Under those situations they will not give the suspect an opportunity to do anything. It's all about police safety.

Another issue is most drug users or dealers don't want to get caught and will most likely run with the attempt to throw the drug away (losing evidence) or they might try to swallow the drug to get rid of evidence. The whole point of doing what your saying is obsurd is to catch the bad guy off guard and get him to the ground with out having to chase him, fight him, or tazer him.

In my opinion i think its all about public safety.


If someone freely chooses to join the infantry, become a firefighter, or to be crabber on deadliest catch they do so with the knowledge that their job is inherently dangerous. If someone doesnt want to be subjected to great risk then dont become a police officer, its literally that simple. Never do i think a person should be subject to battery without first given a chance to voluntary surrender. Im a Blackstone guy in that id rather see 10 go free than one wrongly punished so those views bleed into this one for me.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

In my opinion i think its all about public safety.


If someone freely chooses to join the infantry, become a firefighter, or to be crabber on deadliest catch they do so with the knowledge that their job is inherently dangerous. If someone doesnt want to be subjected to great risk then dont become a police officer, its literally that simple. Never do i think a person should be subject to battery without first given a chance to voluntary surrender. Im a Blackstone guy in that id rather see 10 go free than one wrongly punished so those views bleed into this one for me.

so a dead cop is better than an uneccessary tackle?

I mean, I guess it's all context about whether a specific action is really warranted, but sometimes things move fast and some people react badly or misread the situation. I mean, I'm all against police brutality, but what if they see a gun?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by That Guy

so a dead cop is better than an uneccessary tackle?

I mean, I guess it's all context about whether a specific action is really warranted, but sometimes things move fast and some people react badly or misread the situation. I mean, I'm all against police brutality, but what if they see a gun?

I completely agree its all about the specific situation. I mis-typed when i said:

"Never do i think a person should be subject to battery without first given a chance to voluntary surrender."

I meant, Never do i think a person should be subject to battery by a public servant without fist given the chance to voluntary surrender unless they pose an imminent serious threat to themselves, public safety or the police officer.

There are many situations where i think tackling a guy to a ground is absolute correct course of action. A guy in the Cops video above walking away after buying some weed is not one of them.

[mlmpetert]

Florida Man Tortured and Pepper-Sprayed to Death by Police | Care2 Causes

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Florida Man Tortured and Pepper-Sprayed to Death by Police | Care2 Causes

it doesnt get more sick than that. Its generally shameful how we treat the mentally ill in this country, this takes it to a whole other level. Being Cops you can assure they will get off