What is RG3 worth to us?

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by That Guy

pittsburg drafted holmes in the 1st and gave him away for a 5th. how did jeff george work out? bad picks are bad picks whether they're in the draft or FA, so let's be careful about the drafting is the only option routine. detriot? really? the team that went 0-16 and will get bounced from th playoffs in 2 games with about 42 top 5 picks... that's the example? how'd joey harrington work out btw?

the saints built through the draft? you mean like when they signed drew brees as a FA and finally ended about 432 years of losing?

new england signs FAs/trades pretty consistently. moss, dillon, ocho, welker, branch, etc etc.

the other three do draft well and are mainly comprised of picks.

but this last year we signed otagwe, wilson, cofield, bowen to big deals and tons of smaller deals (gaffney etc - FAR more than your 2 FA limit), and guess what? they worked out (otagwe is a meh).

we need 4 players - OL, QB, CB, WR and we have 2 picks where we might be able to expect help this year, so at least 2 are going to be FA signings if we want some re-assurance they'll be filled.

QB and CB are the most expensive in FA cause there just isn't much there (flynn, grimes, rogers and that's almost it). I wouldn't mind signing any of those guys and/or a WR and/or grubbs... that's 0-4, but I'd say we need at least 2 and our picks to be competitive next year (and no i don't think we should expect to wait 3 more years for the playoffs).

this isn't cerrato handing out stupid contracts to bad players, so let's get over that. haynesworth and archuleta, lloyd, hall, etc were regarded as mistakes WHEN THEY WERE SIGNED. It was bad FO evaluation and the fans don't have any control over that.

All these teams build through the draft with all their all pro players. All these teams except for New Orleans and Houston, have drafted their QB's.

I know its an annoying cliche, but it is a QB driven league, and you going to find your franchise QB 95% of the time in the draft.

And you go on about how these teams have gotten free agents that have been good or have been busts; You Clearly Didn't Read my original post. All teams get FA's, at sometime or all the time, but the good teams build through the draft. Steelers build through the draft and their in the playoffs every year. Green Bay;do I need to go on?

This also goes back to winning. We didn't win with the old regime and their FA habits. We currently aren't winning that well with this regime. Sure they are showing promise, but in this league, everyones professional and you are expected to win and improve. (ah ah ahh hold on) Just look at San Fran, they were 5-11 last year now their 13-3. We were 6-10 last year, now we're 5-11. Until we start winning we as a franchise are still going to be viewed as a laughing stock until we change our ways. Yes we can go get SOME free agents; I'm just saying don't get crazy on them. And as for the whole 'oh we got Bowen and wilson and so and so, etc. etc.' we got them; their Solid players at best. Let me be that realistic bubble burster for you. Cofield you could argue isn't suited at the NT spot. Josh Wilson got picked on a lot this year and lost a lot of matchups. OJ wasn't a good signing considering his health and play declined as the season went on.

Did we have bad signings? No, not really. Did we have signings that I am 100% confident in? Some. Is our signings better than Vinny's? We'll see, but so far they appear to be. Did we sign too many FA's? Yes!

It just seems to be the same trend with us; "We need to build through the draft" ;"Oh man I would like so and so and ____ in FA" ; "I love all our FA signings, getting him and him and that guy and him and possibly him could be huge for us this year! If we have a good draft we could definitely have something good." ; "We had a solid draft and some great FA's, now I'm stoked and opportunistic for this season!"; "god, so and so sucks, we need to replace so and so, why did we sign him, we need to replace him. I'm just ready for this season to be over and the draft." Repeat.