Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

From all accounts Kelly worked hard, he just had a bum knee. Some injuries you can't just "battle through".

Right on, Matty. It isn't MK's fault that we drafted him, it isn't his fault his knees suck, for all we really know he has done all he could have to play in the NFL. So why beat up a guy for injuries beyond his control?

And the "he should have played through the pain" comment is just stupid.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

Right on, Matty. It isn't MK's fault that we drafted him, it isn't his fault his knees suck, for all we really know he has done all he could have to play in the NFL. So why beat up a guy for injuries beyond his control?

And the "he should have played through the pain" comment is just stupid.

I have a habit of comparing NFL players of today to NFL players of 30 and 40 years ago. Vince Lombardi expected his players to play with injuries. By all accounts, I guess today's players are silver spoon fed the notion that if they are injured they should take half the season off and that's not how it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

And for your information, I didn't use the words "play through the pain." I actually said Kelly should have tried to at least "battle through his injury" which is not a far fetched notion at all because some players do it all the time even in today's NFL. I guess collectively they don't make football players the way they used to.

[gangstalicious]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I have a habit of comparing NFL players of today to NFL players of 30 and 40 years ago. Vince Lombardi expected his players to play with injuries. By all accounts, I guess today's players are silver spoon fed the notion that if they are injured they should take half the season off and that's not how it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

And for your information, I didn't use the words "play through the pain." I actually said Kelly should have tried to at least "battle through his injury" which is not a far fetched notion at all because some players do it all the time even in today's NFL. I guess collectively they don't make football players the way they used to.

Well, I guess Kelly liked having his knees intact :x. I can sympathize with the dude. Knee injuries are awful and some people can't shake em off.

Those same NFL players 30-40 years ago have/are suing the NFL for conditions they developed by playing through their injuries.

I think it's kind of petty that you say "newer" players are spoon-fed the notion that if they are injured they should take half the season off. If it's the team that is doing the spoon feeding than they are just protecting their investments.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I have a habit of comparing NFL players of today to NFL players of 30 and 40 years ago. Vince Lombardi expected his players to play with injuries. By all accounts, I guess today's players are silver spoon fed the notion that if they are injured they should take half the season off and that's not how it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

And for your information, I didn't use the words "play through the pain." I actually said Kelly should have tried to at least "battle through his injury" which is not a far fetched notion at all because some players do it all the time even in today's NFL. I guess collectively they don't make football players the way they used to.

There are a lot of players from years ago who are battling through horrible health issues due to the conditions in which they played, such as being asked to play through injuries. I think it is a bit naive to say that today's players are being silver spoon fed anything. Many players and teams are being more careful in terms of making decisions of when an injured player should return, given that there is usually a lot of money at stake in the sport.

And honestly in the end, NO ONE benefits from having a player play through injury. Case in point, watching a hobbled up Big Ben playing in the playoffs.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I have a habit of comparing NFL players of today to NFL players of 30 and 40 years ago. Vince Lombardi expected his players to play with injuries. By all accounts, I guess today's players are silver spoon fed the notion that if they are injured they should take half the season off and that's not how it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

And for your information, I didn't use the words "play through the pain." I actually said Kelly should have tried to at least "battle through his injury" which is not a far fetched notion at all because some players do it all the time even in today's NFL. I guess collectively they don't make football players the way they used to.

So then how do explain, for just one example, the fact that Boyd Dowler, a WR who played for Lombardi's Packers, missed a Super Bowl (the biggest game of the year) due to injury?

Even Lombardi's players could be too injured to play.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I have a habit of comparing NFL players of today to NFL players of 30 and 40 years ago. Vince Lombardi expected his players to play with injuries. By all accounts, I guess today's players are silver spoon fed the notion that if they are injured they should take half the season off and that's not how it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

And for your information, I didn't use the words "play through the pain." I actually said Kelly should have tried to at least "battle through his injury" which is not a far fetched notion at all because some players do it all the time even in today's NFL. I guess collectively they don't make football players the way they used to.

I realized that I misquoted you as soon as I posted. Sorry.

But the notion is the same, neither of us can know whether he could have "battled through his injury" though. I just chose to believe that, all things considered, MK would have played had he been able to since a very lucrative career was on the line...

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

I realized that I misquoted you as soon as I posted. Sorry.

But the notion is the same, neither of us can know whether he could have "battled through his injury" though. I just chose to believe that, all things considered, MK would have played had he been able to since a very lucrative career was on the line...

In the 2nd round of the 2008 NFL draft, the Redskins could have had either Jordy Nelson or DeSean Jackson. Fred Davis was a legitimate pick. But as it turns out, Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly were wasted picks. Just think of how different things would have been had the Redskins took Eddie Royal, DeSean Jackson, or Jordy Nelson with one of those draft picks. Mario Manningham was also available after the Redskins took Kelly and Thomas in 2008. Vinny Cerratto couldn't draft worth a damn.