Redskins at Bears Post Game Thoughts

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 30gut

To me its important to understand what we're looking at when we have discussion of film/tape.

In the instant of the 1st screen cap Griff is read to throw, he's reached the top of his drop, but he can't throw it to Davis at that time because Davis has yet to cross the face of the LB and therefore Davis at that exact moment is not open.

In order to throw to Moss, Griff has to come off water previous read he was on then moves on to Tana.
At this point the LBs that were previously reading/keying on Davis and Griffin are now reacting to Griffin's arm as he prepares to release of the ball.

Its at this point that the LBs drop off their coverage from Davis and get ready to follow the ball.
That is what makes Davis look wide open while the ball is in air on the way towards Moss.

Im not saying davis was wide open. I am saying that because this is a preseason game that means nothing RG3 was going to air it out the entire time. Im not debating your take on the linebackers. If this were a meaningful game and we needed the first down Griffin could have and hopefully would have fit that ball in there to Davis. Fit it in - i said this before- i am agreeing with you that DAVIS WAS NOt WIDE OPEN. Again because this is preseason and the game means nothing it is hard to break down plays. Why? Because as others have stated shanny and the staff might be keying on a completely different aspect of our offense. If this were a real game we could be sure that RG 3 and the staff would have had one thing on their mind during said play - moving the chains. In this case however i really feel that rg3 was just airing it out from the minute he snapped the ball.
So maybe to make you understand my point i will pose you this question. What if this were a regular season game and we were in dire need of a first down on this play - does rg-3 wait for davis to take a couple steps and squeeze the ball in tight coverage giving davis s chance to lunge for the first? Does he try and run for the first? Or does he air it out into double coverage?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by punch it in

In this case however i really feel that rg3 was just airing it out from the minute he snapped the ball.
So maybe to make you understand my point i will pose you this question. What if this were a regular season game and we were in dire need of a first down on this play - does rg-3 wait for davis to take a couple steps and squeeze the ball in tight coverage giving davis s chance to lunge for the first? Does he try and run for the first? Or does he air it out into double coverage?

I get what you are saying about Griff just wanting to air it out, I just don't agree *shrugs*.
Its okay that we have different takes on that play, its all healthy discussion.

In a real game? Imo I don't think he throws it Davis because the LBs are looking right at Griff and Davis. So if Griff continues to look and wait while for Davis to cross the face of the MLB the MLB is going to run with Davis and make sure Davis does not get across his face and the other LB is probably gonna beat feet and try to close the distance in a trail position. Zones defenders are often taught to spot drop to depth (often they drop back the same number of steps as the QB) then pattern read and let the QBs eyes take them to the play.
That's why zone works well against rookie QBs because they tend to eye ball their first read.

Like the other poster said I trust what Griff saw on that play.


To answers the rest of your question under ideal circumstances Griffin (a) makes a better throw to Moss (b) scrambles for the 1st or scrambles to make a play (c) pulls a savvy vet move and pump fakes to Moss thus freezing or wrong footing the LBs then throws it to a Davis who is now actually wide open