Falcons at Redskins Post Game Thoughts

[los panda]

i'd like to see briscoe get some serious playing time

[punch it in]

Yes! What is up with him? Actually forgot about the guy.


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[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Moss is perfectly suited for what he is now, the #3 slot receiver who can be that reliable underneath receiver who can turn on the burners for a big gain

Morgan's contract is not as much of a handcuff as people seem to believe.

And we have plenty of draft picks, 2nd rounders, 3rd rounders. Yeah we don't have 1sts but let's not act like we're going into the next several years without key draft picks.

The future is not now. That's why you don't hold onto Gaffney when young talent like Garcon is available. Or spend money on Plax when you can develop Hankerson and Dez as red zone targets. Or add Chad Johnson when a younger receiver in Josh Morgan can grow as the Z receiver. All as RG3 develops too.

Of course I want to win, but I mean we're 2-3. How far off is that from where we all thought our record would be right now? Would you rather be 3-2 with Grossman and Gaffney or 2-3 with RG3 and Garcon?

It's a good debate SS, but only if you hold on to the premise guys like Garcon, Hank, Morgan and Briscoe develop into consistent difference makers. Right now, I think it's less than 50/50 odds any of those guys become consistent difference makers. Garcon's middle name, if you will, is inconsistent. The other three are really projects of one form or another. Hopefully I'm wrong all around.

But if none become difference makers then certainly the better route was keep the the average, vet WRs around (for a fraction of the currect payroll) until you really get that guy. That's what I don't understand about the "we're building for the future" argument. I see us trying to win now, and sucking at it. Why blow a wad and gamble on a guy like Garcon, who's definitely not proven he can be a #1 WR, if you're not "reaching" to win now? If anything the regime has looked desperate for immediate improvement in it's personnel decisions.

[skinsfaninok]

Briscoe sucks that's y he isn't playing guys

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Briscoe sucks that's y he isn't playing guys

How do we know that unless he plays?


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[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

How do we know that unless he plays?


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Coaches probably know it because they see him practice everyday. I think if he was consistently having great practices they'd give him a shot.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Atlanta is a better team than we are. We can complain about certain things but bottom line is they're a better team and the better team won. But we must cut Cundiff tonight and get some kickers in here tomorrow.

Atlanta is a better team. has been for several years. I had this game as a loss on my win loss calender so I'm not too upset but the Skins did give Atlanta a run for their money. Score was pretty close and maybe that was partially cause Atlanta does not play well in weather or outside stadiums. But any advantage we can get is a plus.

I really don't think we are going to know what we got until each of the other NFC East teams start playing the same teams; ie; Saints, Rams, Falcons, or each other. The Skins beat Tampa just like two of our division rivals have and all three teams beat Tampa.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Coaches probably know it because they see him practice everyday. I think if he was consistently having great practices they'd give him a shot.

They also saw cundiff kick in practice everyday. So either they need glasses or things dont always translate frome the practice field to gameday. I dont think it hurts to get him in the game.


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[los panda]

Originally Posted by mooby

Coaches probably know it because they see him practice everyday. I think if he was consistently having great practices they'd give him a shot.

i get that, i understand that's the way it works. but some guys can turn it up to another level in a game, not saying that briscoe will - just saying he might.

this isn't a "shit season, might as well play the young guys" type thing. i'm not saying he's going to come on strong like victor cruz did last season, i just want to see him get some serious playing time in a regular season game.

[skinsfaninok]

Yeah but kickers are slim to none out there so we have to keep cundiff

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yeah but kickers are slim to none out there so we have to keep cundiff

I meant before the season when gano and rackers were cut. They must have seen something in cundiff when they bought him here. I hear you though.


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[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I said this yesterday and somebody (forget who) lol'd me. Lol'd me can ya believe it? Lol
Edit: bucket you lol'd me in the gameday thread. I said i thought grossman was better than cousins (obviously meaning rite now as a backup - i did say cousins was a wasted pick - i stand by that - rex would be a better back up for the short future and still think the pick could have been used for secondary / line? And we will have time to replace our backup )


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I don't know, I personally think Cousins is better then Grossman. So Cousins threw 2 INT's thats exactly what we got out of Grossman each game last year so the team is no worse or better at second string QB.

In the perfect world the team would be putting up 20+ points more then their oponants and Cousins could see some action in the 4th quarter. Maybe he should get more practice time since RG3 knows the offense pretty well. Let Cousins get more practice time so if he has to come in he will be ready.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It's a good debate SS, but only if you hold on to the premise guys like Garcon, Hank, Morgan and Briscoe develop into consistent difference makers. Right now, I think it's less than 50/50 odds any of those guys become consistent difference makers. Garcon's middle name, if you will, is inconsistent. The other three are really projects of one form or another. Hopefully I'm wrong all around.

But if none become difference makers then certainly the better route was keep the the average, vet WRs around (for a fraction of the currect payroll) until you really get that guy. That's what I don't understand about the "we're building for the future" argument. I see us trying to win now, and sucking at it. Why blow a wad and gamble on a guy like Garcon, who's definitely not proven he can be a #1 WR, if you're not "reaching" to win now? If anything the regime has looked desperate for immediate improvement in it's personnel decisions.

I think you're not thinking 4th dimensionally Marty...seriously though, how often do you keep waiting for that guy. And who is that guy? I didn't agree with signing Morgan but I think adding Garcon who's shown he can be a #1 WR and can grow with RG3 over the next couple of years was a smart move both on the field and salary cap wise. You want to get guys on the upswing

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think you're not thinking 4th dimensionally Marty...seriously though, how often do you keep waiting for that guy. And who is that guy? I didn't agree with signing Morgan but I think adding Garcon who's shown he can be a #1 WR and can grow with RG3 over the next couple of years was a smart move both on the field and salary cap wise. You want to get guys on the upswing

Last year everyone complained about not having any speed and youth at WR. Well that's what we have now, PG and AR.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I don't know, I personally think Cousins is better then Grossman. So Cousins threw 2 INT's thats exactly what we got out of Grossman each game last year so the team is no worse or better at second string QB.

In the perfect world the team would be putting up 20+ points more then their oponants and Cousins could see some action in the 4th quarter. Maybe he should get more practice time since RG3 knows the offense pretty well. Let Cousins get more practice time so if he has to come in he will be ready.

Im not necessarily saying cousins wont be better than grossman some day. Im saying that we had/have a serviceable backup in grossman already who knows the offense. I think the pick would have been better served elsewhere and we could have replaced grossman or not - its not like grossman is a sought after commodity and he basically has said he has no problem sticking around and being the backup.
You said urself the team is no better or worse at second string qb so why the pick?

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