Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think it's pretty evident that Gano's only true believer at Redskins Park is Danny Smith, and maybe Gano doesn't want to subject himself to a tryout only to walk away without a contract. Maybe he feels like if he's got to go back there it better be guaranteed he's got the job. Or else he'll just wait

Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.

[imaskin4life]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.

Lol

[imaskin4life]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.

"Graham, we've asked you time and time again to tone down the religion talk but you just can't seem to control yourself. So for that reason its best that we part ways. Now your Sundays will be free to talk about religion all you want."

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.

Too bad his god didn't answer his prayers about being a good consistent kicker. Guess he should have prayed harder.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Too bad his god didn't answer his prayers about being a good consistent kicker. Guess he should have prayed harder.

Winner!

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.

That sounds like a fable. If it's true, then the Redskins front office is pretty stupid. If players don't like it, all they have to do is tell Gano to shut the hell up.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.

That sounded a bit absurd, but I asked them this morning if they ever said anything like that or if it's even true. The answer "Never. 100% not true. Zero chance of that."

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That sounded a bit absurd, but I asked them this morning if they ever said anything like that or if it's even true. The answer "Never. 100% not true. Zero chance of that."

Well thats not what Chris Said on ESPN980.

Check the ESPN980 Audio Vault - 10/7/2012 Chris Russell Post Game and start listening around the 6 minute mark.

Al Michaels: Would Shanahan bring him (Cundiff) back? Do you think he'd swallow his pride and..

Russell: No, i dont think he will, because i dont think Mike likes him very much

Al : Do you know why that is? What is it that he specifically doesnt like about him?

Chris: i know some things. Hes frustrated with his consistency... and then there's other elements to it that i'm not quite sure if that, you know, necessarily belongs in this forum, but you know - Graham is a very religious person and i've heard some things that that irked some people. So you know, there's something to that i beleive. I don't know that absolutely 100% for sure, and i dont want to accuse somebody of something, but that is what i was told.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Chris: i know some things. Hes frustrated with his consistency... and then there's other elements to it that i'm not quite sure if that, you know, necessarily belongs in this forum, but you know - Graham is a very religious person and i've heard some things that that irked some people. So you know, there's something to that i beleive. I don't know that absolutely 100% for sure, and i dont want to accuse somebody of something, but that is what i was told.[/I]

While I think that part may have irked Shanny, I seriously doubt he got rid of him because of that. Even CR hints at this being a rumor, but not sure he ties it to why Gano was cut. I think Gano was cut because he's too damn inconsistent and if he could be replaced by somebody equal that Mike liked, he would be. Now, maybe Mike disliked Gano on a personal level due to him being a preachy/openly religious. I can buy that.

Either way, it's good info and thanks for sharing.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

While I think that part may have irked Shanny, I seriously doubt he got rid of him because of that. Even CR hints at this being a rumor, but not sure he ties it to why Gano was cut. I think Gano was cut because he's too damn inconsistent and if he could be replaced by somebody equal that Mike liked, he would be. Now, maybe Mike disliked Gano on a personal level due to him being a preachy/openly religious. I can buy that.

Either way, it's good info and thanks for sharing.

I honestly dont agree that Gano was THAT inconsistent. The blocks from last year were not his fault. In my opinion, he was the best we'd had in a while, but thats not saying much. Of the guys out there now, i think he's the best available - by a wide margin. I want Cundiff gone as much as the next guy, but i think Cundiff is better than any of the guys we're supposedly bringing in today. We may be "stuck" with Cundiff.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I honestly dont agree that Gano was THAT inconsistent. The blocks from last year were not his fault. In my opinion, he was the best we'd had in a while, but thats not saying much. Of the guys out there now, i think he's the best available - by a wide margin. I want Cundiff gone as much as the next guy, but i think Cundiff is better than any of the guys we're supposedly bringing in today. We may be "stuck" with Cundiff.

I happen to agree with you. I was not in favor of cutting Gano for Cundiff. I didn't think it was a upgrade in any shape, form or fashion. This is one of the few mistakes Mike has made during his tenure (McNabb, Haslett, Cundiff,Danny Smith) that I haven't agreed with.

[mlmpetert]

Any chance that instead of Gano not trying out because of an issue between him and Shanahan, it has more to do with him being the default option and were just doing our due dilligence on other kickers first?

So if More, Brown, Forbath or whoever else might come in to kick doesnt look better than Gano, then Gano gets the job? Or is it offically over between the Skins and Gano at this point?

Also i think there are limitations to how many guys you can have in to try out each week. Maybe 3 or so kickers plus some other routine workout guys we will never hear about have already filled the allowed amount?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I honestly dont agree that Gano was THAT inconsistent. The blocks from last year were not his fault. In my opinion, he was the best we'd had in a while, but thats not saying much. Of the guys out there now, i think he's the best available - by a wide margin. I want Cundiff gone as much as the next guy, but i think Cundiff is better than any of the guys we're supposedly bringing in today. We may be "stuck" with Cundiff.

What? take a look at his stats. dude also had a propensity to kick the ball out of bounds on kickoffs. Clearly if he was consistent he would be here.

We finally need to address this in the offseason.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

What? take a look at his stats. dude also had a propensity to kick the ball out of bounds on kickoffs. Clearly if he was consistent he would be here.

We finally need to address this in the offseason.

I agree with BHA that he wasnt as incosistant as some people think he was, at least in 2011. He was 31 out of 41 with 5 being blocked. If all his blocks were made he would be 88%, although some of the kicks may have been missed and some of the blocks may very well be his fault. No excuse for kicks out of bounds though.

I think why people liked him is that he is a young kicker with a very strong leg that was getting better. He also owns the Redskins record for longest field goal. I liked him because he broke his back and kept playing and made a FG. I thought that was pretty sweet. Maybe not Trent Williams bone bruise im proving myself and need to let everyone know tough, but still tough nonetheless.....

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Well thats not what Chris Said on ESPN980.

Check the ESPN980 Audio Vault - 10/7/2012 Chris Russell Post Game and start listening around the 6 minute mark.

Al Michaels: Would Shanahan bring him (Cundiff) back? Do you think he'd swallow his pride and..

Russell: No, i dont think he will, because i dont think Mike likes him very much

Al : Do you know why that is? What is it that he specifically doesnt like about him?

Chris: i know some things. Hes frustrated with his consistency... and then there's other elements to it that i'm not quite sure if that, you know, necessarily belongs in this forum, but you know - Graham is a very religious person and i've heard some things that that irked some people. So you know, there's something to that i beleive. I don't know that absolutely 100% for sure, and i dont want to accuse somebody of something, but that is what i was told.

Maybe I am wrong, but the quote you put here in no way equals your earlier statement

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Chris Russell and rich tandler have both been on espn980 and essentially said shanahan got rid of gano because he was openly religious and it put a lot of players off.

The actual airtime quote as you have it, says that Gano's inaccuracy was a primary source of their frustration and other factors may have made the decision more palatable. Your interpreted quote makes it sound like the openly religious issue was essentially why Shanahan got rid of Gano.

I don't see how the airtime quote you used in anyway equates to the statement you attributed to it.