Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

This thread has gone on longer than 3 gameday threads.....why do you all continue to beat a dead horse?

You all would rather talk about Shanahan sucking or he should be fired, but not about the positives or other threads on this board. I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of these people when I come to this board...

I think we all want to discuss the things it would take for us to get better and that means talking about what problems we have that need fixing.

You dont have to worry about fixing the postive things to get better......, That is, of course, unless its your defense. And your defensive personal and scheme happen to be the strength of your team and you want to change it because, um... well, i guess because it was just as pressing as..... or because an overhall was needed since.... Wait why did Mike make the change again?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by redskin29633

In the current digital issue of Pro Football Weekly, they ran a short feature article on Shanahan and the Redskins' problems. The article states that had Shanahan known how bad his other 52 players were, he would not have made the deal for RGIII. PFW intimates that Shanahan did not expect that the Redskins draft picks (relinquished for Griffin) would be such quality picks. Had he known, the story contends, Shanahan would have never made the deal with St. Louis. Shanahan made the trade with St. Louis believing that his Redskins would be a contender right now!

If Shanahan said this or anything like it publicly Snyder needs to fire him immediately, as a matter of principle.

Is there a link to the story?

[CultBrennan59]

Ill say this. When we hired MS I knew that with the fact that no Super Bowl coaches have won Super Bowls with other teams, that that was unlikely to happen here. I figured that MS was more so a hiring to get our team in the right direction, and hand it over to someone else when he would retire (like his son Kyle for example). The problem is this team hasn't progressed, in most ways it's regressed.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by The Goat

If Shanahan said this or anything like it publicly Snyder needs to fire him immediately, as a matter of principle.

Is there a link to the story?

Wow if true I agree he needs to be gone.

[SmootSmack]

You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW

Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan said after a 21-13 home loss to the previously 1-6 Panthers that he would begin evaluat- ing which players would be part of the picture in 2013. Where Shanahan failed previously was not properly doing so this year.
Shanahan thought he had a playoff-caliber roster, and what holes there were could be caulked by the dynamic talents of pre- cocious rookie QB Robert Griffin III. Shanahan was right about Griffin — the kid is good — but wrong about the other 52 guys.
Why else would he gamble and give up so much (first-round picks gone the next two seasons), even for as rare a talent as RG3? If you had told Shanahan that the picks he would give up would be top-10s, I guarantee he would have hesitated.
As executive VP, this falls on Shanahan. Sure, he unearthed a nice fit for his zone scheme (sixth-round RB Alfred Morris) and the team has lost four starters to injury, but that also reflects on the depth of the bottom half of the roster — there is next to none.
When Shanahan was dusting the NFL in the 1990s with his offense, he could get away with undersized linemen because he had whiz OL coaches like Bobb McKittrick and Alex Gibbs, star receivers such as Jerry Rice, Rod Smith and Shannon Sharpe and Hall of Fame QBs in Steve Young and John Elway.
Griffin is great, but even he can’t compensate for this mess on his own. Years of bad personnel moves, some under Shanahan’s watch, have left the Redskins’ till mostly bare. — Eric Edholm

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW

You must feed the savages their blood man lol.

I dont think the team has regressed.. I think its currently plagued woth injuries and any team would be struggling with the same amount of them.

[MTK]

Don't discourage a good witch hunt. Hatters gonna hatt every chance they get legit reason or not.

[53Fan]

I'm not sure Shanny would have used the picks wisely even if he had them back. I was one of those guys who kept wanting to build the o-line and getting a pass rushing DE who could actually pressure the QB and have to be accounted for. At one point I thought we could trade down..get an extra pick and get Aldon Smith. But I in no way regret trading up for RG3. It was always about getting a FQB with a lot of posters. Well I'm glad we waited for this one. Couldn't be happier about that. But we obviously didn't do much for the rest of the team before we got him. Trades for Jason Taylor and McNabb still make me sick every time I think about it. And as much as I respect Joe Gibbs.....giving up a third rounder for a RB we neither needed or even played for us..well....we've made plenty of stupid moves with draft choices.

[NC_Skins]

Man your stations!! We got us a witch to burn!!!

[REDSKINS4ever]

Wasted picks for McNabb, Jason Taylor. Also lets not forget about the wasted draft picks on Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly. Just imagine how solid we'd be if we'd drafted wisely and used those 3 2nd round picks and that 3rd rounder on the team instead of trading them away from nothing.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Ill say this. When we hired MS I knew that with the fact that no Super Bowl coaches have won Super Bowls with other teams, that that was unlikely to happen here. I figured that MS was more so a hiring to get our team in the right direction, and hand it over to someone else when he would retire (like his son Kyle for example). The problem is this team hasn't progressed, in most ways it's regressed.

There's a 1st time for every thing. Don't know how far into the future it will happen, but one day a NFL head coach will win Super Bowls with two different teams.

[GTripp0012]

I'm stunned -stunned- that shanahan made the exact same mistake three years in a row.

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

There's a 1st time for every thing. Don't know how far into the future it will happen, but one day a NFL head coach will win Super Bowls with two different teams.

Heck Holmgren almost did it with Sea. If the refs hadn't blown some calls (which the NFL apoligized for) he could've broken that trend.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm stunned -stunned- that shanahan made the exact same mistake three years in a row.

Which one?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW

I didn't read a quote in there, so pretty doubtful it's anything more than the author's opinion. The criticism of personnel decisions is spot on though because personnel and scheme decisions are directly linked.