Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by That Guy

well, this thread seems to have exploded. I'd like to clear some things up though.

NC is a great bootlicker. every time i get a new pair of boots, i always ask for him by name.

matty is the reason conspiracy theorists exist. roswell - matty, jfk - matty, the great defecator conspiracy of 2004... yep, matty. he's evil.

TAFKATAFKASS - just an all around jerk... and a liar. avoid him.


and once again the reason people are avoiding this thread (or have been) is because it's basically been a 3 way circle jerk about how awful shannahan is and anyone who doesn't want him fired or immediately joins in the bashing is an idiot and an a-hole. it's not like we're never seen a trolled thread before. if this were 3-4 years ago someone would spend the time sorting through every point, but it's just generally easier to ignore people and hope they go away.

and believe it or not, i wasn't super up on getting shanny in the first place, but what's the idea? i've heard del rio mentioned seriously by one of the main culprits here. and he thinks you're the idiot.

i don't know. it's not a great situation, but there's no way he's fired before the year's up and at that point, it depends on how the season plays out and who's available. if there aren't better options, you have to sit. we went through last year without a QB cause the only ones available were matt flynn and gabbert... if we had been as reactionary as some of you guys are suggesting, we'd be an 0-fer team still looking for a QB.

vinny's gone, the team is younger, the offense (when healthy) looks like it'll be pretty good. the defense is a mess and the depth still isn't good, but it is what it is. and I think everyone agrees we're not where we want to be, but we're also not jacksonville.

and punch, maybe you are making good points, maybe you aren't, but if you think people are going to read 1,900 posts to figure it out, well, no thanks. less volume, more content please.

Wow.. 400 pages and it took this long to get a post i actually read. Lol nice man

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Before I weigh in on the "Pony" v. "No Pony" debate, I really, really need to know how the mods feel about it. I just don't know what to think until they inform my opinion.

Smootsmack's boots taste like cotton candy.

Hmmm. Thats funny cause his sneakers taste like Candy Apples and his sandals taste like warm soft pretzels. Must spend a lot of time at the carnival. Oh wait....this IS the carnival! Where's the pony's??

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Pretty impressive stats. Even moreso considering Alex Smith is his QB. This is the kind of guy I'm talking about!!! Like you said...no one knew who the hell Joe Gibbs was either and that turned out pretty well. Hire him and some young up and coming DC and we might have something for a long time. Skinsfaniok brought up Chip Kelly. I've heard good things about him also. Know much about him? Does he have any pro experience?

I like Chip Kelly, the only negative about him is he hasn't really developed a QB like Roman. Roman guided David Carr to his best year under him with Houston, Luck at Stanford and was a miracle worker with Alex Smith.

[53Fan]

I'd love to see Roman with RG3.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I don't see Gruden leaving ESPN honestly

Me neither. It's a dream job for Gruden, would be for most dudes.

My dream job: sports car reviewer/writer.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I like Chip Kelly, the only negative about him is he hasn't really developed a QB like Roman. Roman guided David Carr to his best year under him with Houston, Luck at Stanford and was a miracle worker with Alex Smith.

True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by That Guy

well, this thread seems to have exploded. I'd like to clear some things up though.

NC is a great bootlicker. every time i get a new pair of boots, i always ask for him by name.

matty is the reason conspiracy theorists exist. roswell - matty, jfk - matty, the great defecator conspiracy of 2004... yep, matty. he's evil.

TAFKATAFKASS - just an all around jerk... and a liar. avoid him.


and once again the reason people are avoiding this thread (or have been) is because it's basically been a 3 way circle jerk about how awful shannahan is and anyone who doesn't want him fired or immediately joins in the bashing is an idiot and an a-hole. it's not like we're never seen a trolled thread before. if this were 3-4 years ago someone would spend the time sorting through every point, but it's just generally easier to ignore people and hope they go away.

and believe it or not, i wasn't super up on getting shanny in the first place, but what's the idea? i've heard del rio mentioned seriously by one of the main culprits here. and he thinks you're the idiot.

i don't know. it's not a great situation, but there's no way he's fired before the year's up and at that point, it depends on how the season plays out and who's available. if there aren't better options, you have to sit. we went through last year without a QB cause the only ones available were matt flynn and gabbert... if we had been as reactionary as some of you guys are suggesting, we'd be an 0-fer team still looking for a QB.

vinny's gone, the team is younger, the offense (when healthy) looks like it'll be pretty good. the defense is a mess and the depth still isn't good, but it is what it is. and I think everyone agrees we're not where we want to be, but we're also not jacksonville.

and punch, maybe you are making good points, maybe you aren't, but if you think people are going to read 1,900 posts to figure it out, well, no thanks. less volume, more content please.

Who ever once said if you dont bash shanny your an a-hole? Thats just pure nonsense.
Also - i dont expect anybody to read every post by anyone. I know i dont.
I just made 5 posts about a pony? Dont care if they go unnoticed or unappreciated. Not sure how much content i can give pony talk. You are taking what i said out of context. When someone quotes me or mentions me by name and i counter with a good point - that is usually when i hear about my postcount.
This is fun for me - i learn alot on here - and i take it for what it is - football talk amongst fellow redskins fans.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure

Was it dink and dunk at Stanford? Not with Luck it wasn't, he reminds me of Gibbs, big OL with punishing RB and a bonus damn good QB. A winning combination

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure

I think thats cus Alex Smith has a dink and dunk arm.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure

I'm guessing but he probably fits the offense to what he has. SF didn't really have much receiver or QB wise to work with in 2011 did they? I mean they did well but Morgan was hurt and Smith hadn't shown alot to that point. He didn't dink and duck with Luck.

[skinsfaninok]

I'll give u guys that, Alex Smith obviously is no where near Griffin

[SFREDSKIN]

Here's an example of the dink and dunk scores at Stanford in 2010 with Roman and Luck. 2010 Stanford Cardinal Football Schedule

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Here's an example of the dink and dunk scores at Stanford in 2010 with Roman and Luck. 2010 Stanford Cardinal Football Schedule

No doubt he did great w luck.

[The Goat]

The contrast here is pretty good the last several pages. On the one hand you (still) have fans asking if there's any good/great HC prospects out there, and then when nobody steals the keyboard to answer lol they go on w/ the assumption Shanny just can't be replaced. And the other hand you have a damn fine educational dialogue about some good/great prospects out there. For what it's worth anyone named Roman is badass to the core. Git em!!

I really don't get the hate on Del Rio as a defensive coach. Look what he's done in Denver already. So you give him a stupid fancy title as Asst Head Coach - Defense. Roman is HC. Done. (Trying saying that in a Christopher Walken voice hehe)

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I think thats cus Alex Smith has a dink and dunk arm.

Smith definitely isn't asked to do too much. But then you have playoff games last year where he looked like a PBer. He's a tough one to figure out IMO.