Thoughts on the game

[skinnyfan]

Ramsey is trash......I keep making excuses for him and I'm done with that. He looked horrible last night. We are going to live and die with Ramsey this year and we might limp our way to 7 wins if we're lucky. I keep saying that Ramsey made a few nice plays last night, trying to defend him...but that is what his job is, to hit the open receiver and he can't do it more than 1/2 the time unless its a dump off.

Enough with that.....does anyone feel that we haven't worked the middle of the field at all in this preseason. I feel like that is coming at some point in time. I feel like we are attacking the side and corners of the field. Anyone else see that??

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by skinnyfan

Ramsey is trash......I keep making excuses for him and I'm done with that. He looked horrible last night. We are going to live and die with Ramsey this year and we might limp our way to 7 wins if we're lucky. I keep saying that Ramsey made a few nice plays last night, trying to defend him...but that is what his job is, to hit the open receiver and he can't do it more than 1/2 the time unless its a dump off.

Enough with that.....does anyone feel that we haven't worked the middle of the field at all in this preseason. I feel like that is coming at some point in time. I feel like we are attacking the side and corners of the field. Anyone else see that??

AMEN BROTHER!

The Redskins just got rid of a WR who held on to the ball 50 percent of the time. Where is he now? You're absolutely right, Ramsey's job is to hit the open receiver but somewhere in between his brain and motor skills lies a dilemma. We want him to do good soooooo bad that we accept his mediocre to horrific performances for the last two games. Who cares if he threw some nice passes if he turned right around and threw 2 INTS? I'm sick of him and the apologist who continue to allow their wisdom to be clouded with the obvious. Which is he will not be the starter of this team, come September if he turns the ball over another time in preseason. PERIOD!

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

AMEN BROTHER!

The Redskins just got rid of a WR who held on to the ball 50 percent of the time. Where is he now? You're absolutely right, Ramsey's job is to hit the open receiver but somewhere in between his brain and motor skills lies a dilemma. We want him to do good soooooo bad that we accept his mediocre to horrific performances for the last two games. Who cares if he threw some nice passes if he turned right around and threw 2 INTS? I'm sick of him and the apologist who continue to allow their wisdom to be clouded with the obvious. Which is he will not be the starter of this team, come September if he turns the ball over another time in preseason. PERIOD!

ever see any of Theismann's preseason games...? You would have been calling for his head too. I think he ended up ok. It's PRE- season. Way too many people are getting all worked up over it. Was everyone excited when we beat up on San Fran a few years back during the Spurrier years? How'd that season turn out? By week 2, you will have forgotten all about it. So...who should start? Brunell? I guess you were not one of the people calling for HIS head last year, right? You want the rook to start? How far does a team go with a rookie QB? So the alternatives are to stfu and wait and see how PR does when the bullets are live and quit crying like babies every time a mistake is made in a preseason game. If he is still making dumb mistakes and costing us games in the regular season...bash away. Until then, take it easy, man.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

ever see any of Theismann's preseason games...? You would have been calling for his head too. I think he ended up ok. It's PRE- season. Way too many people are getting all worked up over it. Was everyone excited when we beat up on San Fran a few years back during the Spurrier years? How'd that season turn out? By week 2, you will have forgotten all about it. So...who should start? Brunell? I guess you were not one of the people calling for HIS head last year, right? You want the rook to start? How far does a team go with a rookie QB? So the alternatives are to stfu and wait and see how PR does when the bullets are live and quit crying like babies every time a mistake is made in a preseason game. If he is still making dumb mistakes and costing us games in the regular season...bash away. Until then, take it easy, man.

Actually I remember watching Theismann in his first season at RFK stadium. So I'm well aware of his mistakes. The problem I have with Ramsey is one that Gibbs has had since he returned as Head Coach. (Rule 1.) Don't Turn the Ball Over. Throw the ball away, but don't turn the ball over. Ramsey started his first game as a QB under Gibbs with 2 ints against the Giants. A game I also attended. Ramseys' dilemma is a lack of composure in tight coverage primarily in the red zone. He's either grossly missed his target or underthrown his pass for the int. There doesn't appear to be any consistency at all in his performances from game to game. The acquisition of Jason Campbell confirms that Ramsey's time in Washington is just about over. It is sad to think that a QB who has overwhelming support from his fans could blow his opportunity on a future team.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Actually I remember watching Theismann in his first season at RFK stadium. So I'm well aware of his mistakes. The problem I have with Ramsey is one that Gibbs has had since he returned as Head Coach. (Rule 1.) Don't Turn the Ball Over. Throw the ball away, but don't turn the ball over. Ramsey started his first game as a QB under Gibbs with 2 ints against the Giants. A game I also attended. Ramseys' dilemma is a lack of composure in tight coverage primarily in the red zone. He's either grossly missed his target or underthrown his pass for the int. There doesn't appear to be any consistency at all in his performances from game to game. The acquisition of Jason Campbell confirms that Ramsey's time in Washington is just about over. It is sad to think that a QB who has overwhelming support from his fans could blow his opportunity on a future team.

if you were there, you should remember it was 3 ints

I just think people are jumping the gun... brunell went 2-4 had a 50% completion rate and was throwing for under 100yards a game last year. I really think we should chill and let ramsey have his shot, the running game is good, the oline is improved, the scheme looks remarkably better than the crap we ran last year, and our defene is still good. If decisions are his problem, experience and film study is the easiest solution. He's not as lead footed as bledsoe, he doesn't have a noodle arm... The team around him is pretty good now it seems. Let's see how he does at least until the bye week. If he's absolutely killing us, there's an entire week and 0-2 isn't imposible to overcome... though if we lose to the bears something is obviously really wrong.

[SmootSmack]

Well if we're going to get specific, the first game he started was against the Eagles, in which he threw one interception.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by That Guy

if you were there, you should remember it was 3 ints

I just think people are jumping the gun... brunell went 2-4 had a 50% completion rate and was throwing for under 100yards a game last year. I really think we should chill and let ramsey have his shot, the running game is good, the oline is improved, the scheme looks remarkably better than the crap we ran last year, and our defene is still good. If decisions are his problem, experience and film study is the easiest solution. He's not as lead footed as bledsoe, he doesn't have a noodle arm... The team around him is pretty good now it seems. Let's see how he does at least until the bye week. If he's absolutely killing us, there's an entire week and 0-2 isn't imposible to overcome... though if we lose to the bears something is obviously really wrong.

I got the hell out of there after the 2nd INT. Thanks for reminding me of how bad Ramsey played against the Giants. My prediction. If Ramsey turns the ball over for any reason in the next two pre-season games, there should not be a QB controversy. We who love the Redskins should line up outside FEDex Field and not let Ramsey's ass through the gate. Time is not on his side at this point. If he's worried about losing his spot moreso than building a future hear in Washington, which I'm sure he doesn't want to do, he will continue to struggle in the near future. The presence of Musrgrave reveals that Gibbs isn't ready to give up on Brunell just yet.

[saskin]

Originally Posted by skinnyfan

Ramsey is trash......I keep making excuses for him and I'm done with that. He looked horrible last night. We are going to live and die with Ramsey this year and we might limp our way to 7 wins if we're lucky. I keep saying that Ramsey made a few nice plays last night, trying to defend him...but that is what his job is, to hit the open receiver and he can't do it more than 1/2 the time unless its a dump off.

Enough with that.....does anyone feel that we haven't worked the middle of the field at all in this preseason. I feel like that is coming at some point in time. I feel like we are attacking the side and corners of the field. Anyone else see that??

I agree.....if Ramsey continues on like this, we're gonna live and die by him. BUT I've learned to never doubt Gibbs....he knows what he's doing.

[dblanch66]

I watched the entire game and compared to last week, I thought the team made strides. Much better showing. If the team continues to show improvement on a weekly basis, that's what we, as fans, should be focused on. Some said Ramsey is "trash". Give me a break!! So he made a couple of bone head plays. It happens. This is the time to do it. It is PRE SEASON!! Duh..
This is the time to make dumb mistakes, get burned (C. Rogers), make dumb decisions (PR), fumble the ball in critical situations (Nemo in 4th qtr). I'd rather it happen now than in Dallas on Monday nite. We can learn from mistakes and it gives the coaches PLENTY to use as motivation and teaching tools.
Ramsey made some beautiful passes as well. We had some good D, good teams play and some nice runs. Overall, with a vanilla game plan, some players still hurt, the Redskins are right where they need to be.