Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Are we still talking about this? The cap money is good as gone. It's not coming back. Not now, not later, but never. It would take Danny and Jerry killing their cash cow (we call it the NFL) in order to get any sort of justice out of this. The bottom line is, Danny and Jerry (or any other owner) care more about making money, than they do about principles or winning.

Thats a completely ridiculous statement and shows you have no idea what youre talking about.

In getting rid of those contracts, Snyder actually PAID OVER 100MM in money to bad players in lump sums, just to get them off the team and free up cap space... so he could spend even MORE OF HIS MONEY on new players who could help the team win.

If Snyder cared more about money than winning, he would have, for example, made fat albert play out his contract, or not dump the money in the uncap year, carrying dead money in future years, which would save him money as he wouldnt be able to spend it on new players.

You said it yourself - the cap money is gone. Snyders only option would be to file a case in against the league in court - one which they'd most certainly lose. And if they won, and the court ruled the league had committed collusion against the union, it would be disasterous for the league. Its a no-win situation.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Thats a completely ridiculous statement and shows you have no idea what youre talking about.

In getting rid of those contracts, Snyder actually PAID OVER 100MM in money to bad players in lump sums, just to get them off the team and free up cap space... so he could spend even MORE OF HIS MONEY on new players who could help the team win.

No idea what I'm talking about yet you post the highlighted. Can you enlighten me when Snyder shelled out over 100MM in the 2010 off-season? Last I checked, they reworked D-hall and Albert's contracts that totaled 36 million. *Gasp* That's the same amount we were penalized. So where is the rest of 100MM you speak of and which bad players did he get rid of? The answer is none. Dhall is still here and Albert would STILL be here if he had played ball. It's not they gave them that type of money and cut them just to rid themselves of the players. Here is another fun fact, that money he gave them was guaranteed money. He owed it regardless so the only thing he did was help ease the salary cap for the future.

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

If Snyder cared more about money than winning, he would have, for example, made fat albert play out his contract, or not dump the money in the uncap year, carrying dead money in future years, which would save him money as he wouldnt be able to spend it on new players.

Dan can't make Albert play like he should. He was still giving Haynesworth that 20+ mil whether he liked it or not. You can thank Vinny for that gem, and Dan for signing off on it. So why would you want to keep the guy on your team knowing he was going to half ass it? If anything, it would be more of a slap in the face to keep him around. You are a bit misguided about the salary because there is a salary cap floor he HAS to spend.


As far as owners spending money on players, of course they spend money on players. They have to have a draw to hype up the fan base and put excitement in the stands. A shiny new player means more jerseys to sell. Whether that be McNabb or Tebow, it's a draw for the fans. You got to spend money, to make it.

D.C. Sports Bog - McNabb still second in NFL jersey sales

Make no mistake about it, Snyder wants to win. Winning means more revenue and Dan likes that a lot. I give it to him because he's passionate and he truly is a Skins fan to heart. That said, if Dan had to choose between making money or winning, he'd choose the money. This isn't exclusive to just Dan, as I said all the owners. These guys don't buy these teams to win super bowls. They buy the teams to make a shit ton of money and to see their investment grow. That said, the investment grows much faster with a winning team.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Thats a completely ridiculous statement and shows you have no idea what youre talking about.

In getting rid of those contracts, Snyder actually PAID OVER 100MM in money to bad players in lump sums, just to get them off the team and free up cap space... so he could spend even MORE OF HIS MONEY on new players who could help the team win.

If Snyder cared more about money than winning, he would have, for example, made fat albert play out his contract, or not dump the money in the uncap year, carrying dead money in future years, which would save him money as he wouldnt be able to spend it on new players.

You said it yourself - the cap money is gone. Snyders only option would be to file a case in against the league in court - one which they'd most certainly lose. And if they won, and the court ruled the league had committed collusion against the union, it would be disasterous for the league. Its a no-win situation.

Disasterous yes, worth it yes. For two reasons

1- Snyder would get the pleasure of saying "I told you so".
2- the Skins would not be monitarily punished. However all the other owners most likely would get fined by the courts and the money most likely given to the NFLPA. I'd presume Goodell would lose his job and hopefully Mara would lose his position on the board.

What is the negative? All the other owners would not be happy with Snyder or JJ, but who cares the other owners really don't have love for them anyway.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

What is the negative? All the other owners would not be happy with Snyder or JJ, but who cares the other owners really don't have love for them anyway.

Two words: Allen Davis. Might know him better as Al. They're business partners. You don't sue your business partner and expect everything to remain productive. It won't work. It may "feel" better but that doesn't make it the smart move.

Jerry may not be liked but he is respected. He's on some of the major committees. Snyder is likely still building respect. All that is worth something.