Penalty Situation Improving

CooleyAsCanBe · 08-28-2005, 02:20 PM

In another thread, BigSKIN Bauer posted a link to nfl.com's preseason stats. After noticing how well our offense was moving the ball (the reason he posted the link) I checked out how we ranked in penalties and was happy with what I saw.

We are tied for second for the least number of penalties received this preseason.

We are in fourth for the least number of yards lost to penalties this preseason.

I know last game had a few dumb penalties (too many men in the huddle, delay of game), but overall I have been very pleased with our ability to get plays off, and especially with the O-line's ability to avoid false starts. I remember games over the past few years when we would have three or four penalties in a row. A few time it moved us from field goal range to the other side of the 50. I hope the lack of penalties will continue and is a sign of our cohesion as a unit and good coaching.

Here is the link:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NF...ed&_1:col_1=13

BigSKINBauer · 08-28-2005, 02:36 PM

I was complaining about how many darn penalties we were getting. I retract anything i have posted or said. I really thought we were making dumb penalties, hopefully we stay this good. I mean it is preseason but i feel we can see things and trends. The only problem I see is the turnovers as Tuna said in that other thread, it is the only weakness, if that is fixed we are gonna do very well this year. I think we all feel that too. Turnovers kill us, they will make or break us. I am a homer but i feel we have a shot against any team in the league. I look at our schedule and think on a good day we can beat anyone. I can't wait till the start of the season. no need to talk to the eagle fans until we have something to talk about.

GoSkins! · 08-28-2005, 02:42 PM

After listening to Gibbs press conference, I think that Ramsey didn't really have that much to do with the int. Yeah, he threw it, but it sounded like Gibbs was taking the blame for designing the outlet pass that way. He says he is going to take that play out all together because of the way Pittsburg was able to play it.

Sounds like Ramsey had a good game, and we are starting to see just how good Gibbs can still be at adapting to the new NFL.

CooleyAsCanBe · 08-28-2005, 03:28 PM

Good to hear they'll get rid of that outlet pass play. BigSKINBauer, I agree that turnovers are out Achilles Heel right now. We are near the top in yards per game, but we aren't putting up as many points as we should. If we can erase those turnovers, we'll do alright. I was happy to see us get at least two redzone touchdowns against Pittsburgh.

My folks were both born in DC and I've lived there most of my life, so I am right there with you wearing my rose-colored glasses.

BossHog · 08-28-2005, 03:46 PM

Not directly related to this topic but what about the horse-collar tackle on Betts?

GoSkins! · 08-28-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BossHog

Not directly related to this topic but what about the horse-collar tackle on Betts?

I couldn't tell from the replay, but it looked like the guy had a good bit of Betts jersey. The jersey doesn't count ao maybe that's why there was no call.

CooleyAsCanBe · 08-28-2005, 04:03 PM

Yeah, the commentators said that you could see the jersey stretch down, so he wasn't holding the pads. Scary to see Betts limp off after the tackle though.

BossHog · 08-28-2005, 05:07 PM

The commentators were speculating. Betts said himself that the official said he 'was already going down'. That has nothing to do with a jersey. They missed a call.

VishsSkins · 08-28-2005, 05:09 PM

If we can keep this up, it would be a drastic change from previous years. Wasn't it only two yrs ago that we set a franchise record for penalty yds? I am very pleased with how mistake-free we have been as far as penalties go. Delays of game and false starts realy killed us last year and since Gibbs has to be used to the 40 second play clock by now, I dont see that as a big problem this year.

We are starting to look like the redskins of the good old days. Overpowering o-line, great running game, down field passing, awesome coaching. Look for ramsey to be the next mark rypen by season's end.

monk81 · 08-28-2005, 05:45 PM

I complained about the penalties glad to see we are improving, BUT the really stupid ones continue to get on my nerves..........

illdefined · 08-28-2005, 05:53 PM

http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=7472

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Originally Posted by illdefined

excellent stat Bauer. for another pleasant surprise, check the penalties. who knew?

Eagle eyes you got there CooleyAsCanBe

12thMan · 08-28-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CooleyAsCanBe

Good to hear they'll get rid of that outlet pass play. BigSKINBauer, I agree that turnovers are out Achilles Heel right now. We are near the top in yards per game, but we aren't putting up as many points as we should. If we can erase those turnovers, we'll do alright. I was happy to see us get at least two redzone touchdowns against Pittsburgh.

My folks were both born in DC and I've lived there most of my life, so I am right there with you wearing my rose-colored glasses.

Cooley,

I wouldn't so much worry about points per game during pre-season. The staff's objectives are pretty much three fold: evaluate talent, minimize injuries, and of course win....scoring is important but it's not the main thing. Think about how Spurrier's teams lit up the scoreboard a couple of seasons ago and tanked in the reg. season.

We'll be fine when it counts!

GoSkins! · 08-28-2005, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I wouldn't so much worry about points per game during pre-season. The staff's objectives are pretty much three fold: evaluate talent, minimize injuries, and of course win....scoring is important but it's not the main thing.

And remember that we really only need to score about 21 points a game to win most games.

CooleyAsCanBe · 08-28-2005, 09:48 PM

I'm not sweating the lack of points too hard, just that yards don't mean anything alone. I understand it is the preseason.

illdefined, the credit is all yours. You did bring up the injuries stat before I did. I didn't see your post because I didn't bother reading the rest of that thread once I opened the stat link. Didn't expect penalties to come up in a thread about injuries. Guess I'll switch back to the yellow cap camp scrub avatar.

08-28-2005, 02:20 PM	#1
CooleyAsCanBe Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 47 Posts: 421	Penalty Situation Improving In another thread, BigSKIN Bauer posted a link to nfl.com's preseason stats. After noticing how well our offense was moving the ball (the reason he posted the link) I checked out how we ranked in penalties and was happy with what I saw. We are tied for second for the least number of penalties received this preseason. We are in fourth for the least number of yards lost to penalties this preseason. I know last game had a few dumb penalties (too many men in the huddle, delay of game), but overall I have been very pleased with our ability to get plays off, and especially with the O-line's ability to avoid false starts. I remember games over the past few years when we would have three or four penalties in a row. A few time it moved us from field goal range to the other side of the 50. I hope the lack of penalties will continue and is a sign of our cohesion as a unit and good coaching. Here is the link: http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NF...ed&_1:col_1=13

08-28-2005, 02:36 PM	#2
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Penalty Situation Improving I was complaining about how many darn penalties we were getting. I retract anything i have posted or said. I really thought we were making dumb penalties, hopefully we stay this good. I mean it is preseason but i feel we can see things and trends. The only problem I see is the turnovers as Tuna said in that other thread, it is the only weakness, if that is fixed we are gonna do very well this year. I think we all feel that too. Turnovers kill us, they will make or break us. I am a homer but i feel we have a shot against any team in the league. I look at our schedule and think on a good day we can beat anyone. I can't wait till the start of the season. no need to talk to the eagle fans until we have something to talk about.

08-28-2005, 02:42 PM	#3
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: Penalty Situation Improving After listening to Gibbs press conference, I think that Ramsey didn't really have that much to do with the int. Yeah, he threw it, but it sounded like Gibbs was taking the blame for designing the outlet pass that way. He says he is going to take that play out all together because of the way Pittsburg was able to play it. Sounds like Ramsey had a good game, and we are starting to see just how good Gibbs can still be at adapting to the new NFL. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

08-28-2005, 03:28 PM	#4
CooleyAsCanBe Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 47 Posts: 421	Re: Penalty Situation Improving Good to hear they'll get rid of that outlet pass play. BigSKINBauer, I agree that turnovers are out Achilles Heel right now. We are near the top in yards per game, but we aren't putting up as many points as we should. If we can erase those turnovers, we'll do alright. I was happy to see us get at least two redzone touchdowns against Pittsburgh. My folks were both born in DC and I've lived there most of my life, so I am right there with you wearing my rose-colored glasses.

08-28-2005, 03:46 PM	#5
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Re: Penalty Situation Improving Not directly related to this topic but what about the horse-collar tackle on Betts?

08-28-2005, 04:03 PM	#7
CooleyAsCanBe Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 47 Posts: 421	Re: Penalty Situation Improving Yeah, the commentators said that you could see the jersey stretch down, so he wasn't holding the pads. Scary to see Betts limp off after the tackle though.

08-28-2005, 05:07 PM	#8
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Re: Penalty Situation Improving The commentators were speculating. Betts said himself that the official said he 'was already going down'. That has nothing to do with a jersey. They missed a call.

08-28-2005, 05:09 PM	#9
VishsSkins Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 173	Re: Penalty Situation Improving If we can keep this up, it would be a drastic change from previous years. Wasn't it only two yrs ago that we set a franchise record for penalty yds? I am very pleased with how mistake-free we have been as far as penalties go. Delays of game and false starts realy killed us last year and since Gibbs has to be used to the 40 second play clock by now, I dont see that as a big problem this year. We are starting to look like the redskins of the good old days. Overpowering o-line, great running game, down field passing, awesome coaching. Look for ramsey to be the next mark rypen by season's end.

08-28-2005, 05:45 PM	#10
monk81 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: TEXAS Posts: 2,029	Re: Penalty Situation Improving I complained about the penalties glad to see we are improving, BUT the really stupid ones continue to get on my nerves.......... __________________ "It's absolutely criminal, in my opinion, that Monk has yet to be enshrined (in the Pro-Football Hall of Fame)" Dan Arkush PFW

08-28-2005, 09:48 PM	#14
CooleyAsCanBe Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 47 Posts: 421	Re: Penalty Situation Improving I'm not sweating the lack of points too hard, just that yards don't mean anything alone. I understand it is the preseason. illdefined, the credit is all yours. You did bring up the injuries stat before I did. I didn't see your post because I didn't bother reading the rest of that thread once I opened the stat link. Didn't expect penalties to come up in a thread about injuries. Guess I'll switch back to the yellow cap camp scrub avatar.

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