2013 Free Agents

[MTK]

I'd guess it was more of a scheme fit than anything in KC. Winston is a legit RT.

[JoeRedskin]

Winston would have been great last year. This year, only if he makes sense. He is 29 and will be 30 in November. I know OLinemen generally hold up better into their 30's and EW would be a huge upgrade. Given our cap issues and his age, I am betting we spend our money on someone a year or two younger or grab someone in the draft.

If we can get him for a reasonable 3 year contract - great. I just don't see it happening.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Well my point is, why would they pay Albert 10 million to play right tackle, when they could just let Winston play if he was so good. I never saw him play, but seems to me he may not be that good. Although, Andy Ried likes big fat maulers on his offensive line. I would rather the Redskins spend money on Chris Clemons, and one of the good corners out there and draft a right tackle at 51.

There is your answer right there. Winston excels in the ZBS when it comes to run blocking. I was about to say that Andy Reid is against the ZBS, but that is factually incorrect. Andy Reid is against running the ball.

Btw, am I the only one who believes that Andy Reid is going to go down with the sinking ship because his best player is a RB. Charles better love screen passes, because he wont rush that much this year unless Reid learned that having a running game is actually a good thing. And its difficult to have a good running game when the guy calling the plays judges success not on wins and losses, but whether his QB passes it 50 times a game.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I tweeted Griff to come chill out with me, hopefully he will

I don't think you very funny, mister. Can't hurt right? Besides, he saw the tweet when we were on the 10th hole and said you'd have to wait because he was having too much fun. Sorry….

[SirLK26]

Skinzman, you say Charles is their best player. Are you forgetting about Bowe and Alex Smith? Smith is probably the most underrated QB in the history of the game. The Chiefs definitely upped the 49ers on that trade.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Skinzman, you say Charles is their best player. Are you forgetting about Bowe and Alex Smith? Smith is probably the most underrated QB in the history of the game. The Chiefs definitely upped the 49ers on that trade.

Ummmmm NO, everything about that statement is false. And Jamaal Charles is the Chiefs best player.

[JoeRedskin]

J. Charles will do fine in Andy's system. He is not a pounder who gets the majority of his yards between the tackles. He is more of a breakaway threat and Reid's system will let him operate in space more. I think - if he remains healthy - Charles is in for a big year next season.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Skinzman, you say Charles is their best player. Are you forgetting about Bowe and Alex Smith? Smith is probably the most underrated QB in the history of the game. The Chiefs definitely upped the 49ers on that trade.

No I dont consider Alex Smith to be better than Charles. Bowe you may have a case for, but Alex Smith? Alex Smith is also not the most underrated QB in history. He was a number 1 overall who has been outplayed his entire career by other QB's drafted that same year. How is that underrated? He is a game manager that has yet to show that he can put a team on his shoulders other than a rare game or two.

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

J. Charles will do fine in Andy's system. He is not a pounder who gets the majority of his yards between the tackles. He is more of a breakaway threat and Reid's system will let him operate in space more. I think - if he remains healthy - Charles is in for a big year next season.

To have success in that system, wouldnt he need to carry the ball more than 10 times a game? Charles better hope Reid developed an understanding of the run game after being fired by Philly, or Charles better love getting his production on screen passes.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I just tweeted Eric saying I hope he takes a good look at the Redskins. We'd love to have him go deep into the playoffs with us.

Everyone else should do the same!

I told him
@ericwinston We're about to find out if you want the money or a super bowl. You want the ring? Go to DC and protect RG3.

[CultBrennan59]

sidenote

Our buddies the Eagles reportedly want Winston as their RT for Chip Kellys scheme.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

sidenote

Our buddies the Eagles reportedly want Winston as their RT for Chip Kellys scheme.

In everyone's opinions, which would be worse, Winston to Philly or Dallas?

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

In everyone's opinions, which would be worse, Winston to Philly or Dallas?

Dallas.

Only teams so far according to PFT to talk to Winston are Houston (makes sense) and Philly. Last year Miami called. Dallas may call. We Better call (again)

[NC_Skins]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...nsive-tackles/


PFF's ranking of UFA OT players.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Dallas.

Only teams so far according to PFT to talk to Winston are Houston (makes sense) and Philly. Last year Miami called. Dallas may call. We Better call (again)

Winston doesn't make sense for us for a couple of reasons:

1) primarily salary, we are not in a position to pay top 5 money to a RT right now.

2) although Polumbus was less than stellar, we succeeded in having a successful attack to all parts of the field.

3) at 30, while not old, he isn't "young" either, and this draft will have RT's to develop.

4) speaking of developing, we have brought in several OL, and MS is big on OL stability. Bringing in a high to overpaid star power player, regardless of his ability, doesn't add to the cohesive group mentality MS creates

5) personally, the whole we gotta get player x, is the leftover mentality from the bad days. If we bring him in at a reasonable deal, great, but that won't happen, because he isn't looking for a reasonable deal. He wants the dollars. No fault on him, just saying that we don't do business that way anymore.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

J. Charles will do fine in Andy's system. He is not a pounder who gets the majority of his yards between the tackles. He is more of a breakaway threat and Reid's system will let him operate in space more. I think - if he remains healthy - Charles is in for a big year next season.

Agreed. I expect J.Charles to have a career year catching the ball as he becomes KC's version of Brian Westbrook.