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Old 10-13-2014, 09:21 PM   #151
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You want to bench and fire everyone. Lol.
Damn right!! Changes need to happen, let's see what the young guys can do. LeRebius is on his 3rd year and done a decent job subbing, Long is young and fiery, let's see what he's got. I'm tired of the same old excuses and lets see what we got out of our 2 3rd rounders.
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Old 10-13-2014, 09:27 PM   #152
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We're a 3-13 team who had no 1st rounder, lost 36 mil in cap over two years, and we're without our starting QB. This is what that looks like--no great surprise here. We are rebuilding NOW. If we get a game or two improvement at the end of the year, that's progress.

The big issue here is QB play. The TOs are just killers. They suck the life out of a team. It's pretty hard to get psyched up to smash into some 300+ sized guy when you feel your QB is just gonna chuck it back to the other team. There's a reason people use the cliche that 90% of the game is mental. All we've learned is that Kirk aint the guy. Can RGIII be the guy? I sure hope so. But all this talk about tear the house down and fire the staff is just wrong, IMHO. THE question for this team is about RGIII. The rest is just finding folks with the right skills over the next few years. We've got some decent WRs/TEs, a LT, a few LBs/DLs, a CB or two. But if we have a good QB who can win games and not throw them away, you'll be surprise at how everyone else plays better and makes plays and does their jobs.

My guess is we'll win a few games here, even with Kirk. Tenn, TB, Minn--all winnable, obviously. We'll get a division game W too, maybe. But that's it. That's a 4-5 win season and I'm ok with it if the trend is upward and RGIII shows something. If not, we still need a QB. But leave the FO and coaches for a bit.
I keep waffling from blow it up to continuity, and back and forth.

This ^^^^, is exactly what we need.

OFFENSE:

Gruden came in saying he was going to coach to the personnel we had. While admirable, the talent we have is markedly different from the playoff proven offensive strategy in Cincy.

We have to choose what we want to be and then become that team. Huge dominating o line and TEs worked before for Gruden. And giant receivers who can run block.

Changing a teams identity takes years. The cowgirls had a multi year plan, stuck to it and just ran ground the number 1 defense into the dirt.

DEFENSE:

I really want continuity on defense. Really. I'm struggling with our secondary not making adjustments in the NY game. Morris or Haz or somebody.

Cooley was talking today about leaving cushion and checking off the line up to the individual based on comfort level of our CBs. He suggested our guys are way too inexperienced to be making those calls. Good coaches do more with less. Raheem has underwhelmed.

Not sure how much of our problem is talent and how much is scheme but in-game adjustments are definitely on the coaching staff.
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Here's a breakdown of how a Haslett D ranks over the years.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ngreenber...70616969682944
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Here's a breakdown of how a Haslett D ranks over the years.

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Wow! Just wow.
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Damn right!! Changes need to happen, let's see what the young guys can do. LeRebius is on his 3rd year and done a decent job subbing, Long is young and fiery, let's see what he's got. I'm tired of the same old excuses and lets see what we got out of our 2 3rd rounders.

Oh God im officially ill now because of this franchise. We are pinning our hopes on lerib. Oh how the (not so) mighty (in the first place) have fallen.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:02 PM   #156
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I'm going to raked over the coals for saying this but I would like to see a better RB in there.
There was a play where Morris could have bounced the play outside to open field with one defender but he wont attempt to make people miss and he just cut it back into the pile.
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Wow! Just wow.
Defensive rankings based on yards are worthless IMO. I think right now we're middle of the pack in terms of defensive rankings based on yards, but are dead last in points (which is more important). So while we're not giving up a ton of yards, we're giving up points.

We're also dead last in giveaways/takeways (-9), with a whopping 13 giveaways and only 4 takeways.

Players need to start making plays both big and small. I'm sick and tired of seeing wideouts dropping key passes (Roberts), defensive players dropping INTs (Orakpo in the AZ game, Breeland in the Philly game, etc., etc.), and Cousins throwing mind boggling INTs.

Aside from the Giants game, the Redskins are not getting blown out of the water (as they should be given our roster). Coaches and players just need to get their heads out of their asses and get their act together.
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For two years i have been talking about this guys track record. How he stays employed is mind boggling.
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I'm going to raked over the coals for saying this but I would like to see a better RB in there.

There was a play where Morris could have bounced the play outside to open field with one defender but he wont attempt to make people miss and he just cut it back into the pile.

So one play? The dude is second only to AP in almost every stat since he joined the league. Gotta feed him the ball. He is theee absolute furthest thing from a problem in the entire organization.
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I'm going to raked over the coals for saying this but I would like to see a better RB in there.
There was a play where Morris could have bounced the play outside to open field with one defender but he wont attempt to make people miss and he just cut it back into the pile.
I think teams are set on shutting Morris down. They overload the box to either stop Morris or overwhelm our offensive line.
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Here is my list of fixins:
Fire Haz - its message sending time. Promote someone from within on a trial basis and if need be address for real in the offseason.
As many others have said make BA strictly a $ guy. First order of business in the offseason is to find a true GM with an eye for talent.
Give Almo the effin ball.
Make sure at all costs Rak does not sign!
Draft Oline and DB's ONLY.
Hit on a couple key free agents - focus on the front 7 ONLY. We do not need rb's, wr's, k's, p's.
If they do all of this, and wait for it.........RG-3 can be RG-3 when he comes back (God that is thee biggest issue...again) than this team has a chance to not suck for years to come.
I really do expect all of this to happen, I just dont see how it cannot.
Edit: except Griff I mean. That is out of anybodies control. The rest of the stuff is all possible it just has to be carried out.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:21 PM   #162
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Time for haslet to go
I'm not sure that Haslett is the long term answer, but you can't say (with a straight face) that the defense is the biggest problem right now.

This game shouldn't have even been close, let alone a loss. Put this one on all things offense, but mostly KC and his poor performance for 75% of the game.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:28 PM   #163
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I'm not sure that Haslett is the long term answer, but you can't say (with a straight face) that the defense is the biggest problem right now.

This game shouldn't have even been close, let alone a loss. Put this one on all things offense, but mostly KC and his poor performance for 75% of the game.
Redskins fans love to blame a single person and ignore other bigger issues like the turnovers on offense, the lack of a running game, the lack of depth/inexperience on defense, and the injuries.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:38 PM   #164
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<snip> Players need to start making plays both big and small. I'm sick and tired of seeing wideouts dropping key passes (Roberts), defensive players dropping INTs (Orakpo in the AZ game, Breeland in the Philly game, etc., etc.), and Cousins throwing mind boggling INTs.

Aside from the Giants game, the Redskins are not getting blown out of the water (as they should be given our roster). Coaches and players just need to get their heads out of their asses and get their act together.
This! Outside of Jackson and occasionally Kerrigan and Trent Williams, no one on this team is making plays. We're constantly in situations where a play needs to be made to give us momentum or a huge score, but for whatever reason we never come up with them. Can't win like that.

I think it was Ryan Clark (I love this guy's quotes, very honest) who said that our players seem to try to find ways to not lose, instead of trying to find ways to win. That seems like a great way to put it.

It just feels like we're so close. If we could string a few wins together, maybe we could get some momentum and perhaps start playing better. I think some of us (including me) have deluded ourselves into thinking this roster is more talented than it really is, but I honestly don't think we're 3-13 bad. We just need guys to step up and make plays and start playing with an attitude. If you feel good, you play good. Unfortunately I think a lot of our players feel like losers.

I can't wait for Griffin to come back.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:43 PM   #165
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Didnt get to see the game,just finished watching the 30 minute game rewind.
From my observations I thought the defense played pretty good.They got so close to sacking Palmer several times but just couldnt close the deal.3 guys had Palmer sacking him and he still got the pass off.
Morris does not look slow to me,he looks as good as he ever has,Morris is not the problem,if he was behind Dallas's line he would be tying Jim Browns record also.
Didnt look like a fumble by Roberts,bad call
Terrible call on the pass interference on Breeland
Defense kept us in the game and Cousins took us out of it
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