Chris Samuels is having his best year as a Pro

jamf · 10-16-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You hate him??? WTF is that all about??? Do you really know how tough it is to play LT w/ no help? Do you see JC getting blind sided?? Your comments are just plain silly.

Yes I hate Him!

JGisLordOfTheRings · 10-16-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

Yes I hate Him!

WOW.

Samuels is one of the top-tier LT's in the game and deserves his props. He is a quality character guy and a 'Skin for life.

Don's drink the Hater-Ade now...

lol

Southpaw · 10-16-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

What bothers me about samuels is he never finishes off blocks. He never pancakes defenders. He is as talented as any tackle thats ever played the game but he lacks the aggression to be considered one of the best.

Samuels' job is to block and keep defenders in front of him and as far away from the play as possible. Who cares if he doesn't pancake a lot of people? Pancake blocks aren't the norm, regardless of what Madden 08 tells you.

Pancakes are overrated anyway, because there's also a chance that the blocker will be taken out of the play as well.

SouperMeister · 10-16-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

Samuels' job is to block and keep defenders in front of him and as far away from the play as possible. Who cares if he doesn't pancake a lot of people? Pancake blocks aren't the norm, regardless of what Madden 08 tells you.

Pancakes are overrated anyway, because there's also a chance that the blocker will be taken out of the play as well.

Outstanding point. It's not unusual to see Samuels handle his man, then get to the next tier to make a 2nd block on a play. I've never understood fans that get down on him. Would those haters prefer that we had drafted Peter Warrick with the 3rd overall selection that we used to get Samuels?

saden1 · 10-16-2007, 05:00 PM

Samuels gets into the pro-bowl because players and coaches vote for him. He is a first class LT and I pretty happy he's on our team and you should be too.

mlmpetert · 10-16-2007, 05:54 PM

John Riggens was pretty much ripping on him yesterday. I listened from 530-550pm on Monday and he was saying Samuels technique has really been pretty crappy and he is crossing his legs, something he should never do.

I wish I remembered more of the specific plays they blamed him for and the exact mistakes he made but I kinda caught the end of it when I first got into my car.

I haven’t noticed anything good or bad from Samuels this year, which is usually a good thing because I normally only notice bad plays by the O line not good ones.

Anyone see him make a mistakes vs. Greenbay, or listened to Riggo Radio yesterday between 530-6?

Southpaw · 10-16-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert

John Riggens was pretty much ripping on him yesterday. I listen from 530-550pm on Mondays and he was really saying Samuels technique has been pretty crappy and he is crossing his legs, somthing he should never do.

That's funny that Riggins was ripping on Samuels when Todd Wade was getting pushed around all day.

SouperMeister · 10-16-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

That's funny that Riggins was ripping on Samuels when Todd Wade was getting pushed around all day.

Samuels held KGB, an outstanding edge pass rusher, to 1 tackle (actually an assist) and zero sacks. That was without any help. Our right tackles with occasional assistance allowed Kampman 9 tackles (8 solo) and two sacks. I love Riggo, but calling out Samuels for his solid effort is ridiculous.

mheisig · 10-16-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.

Are you drunk? Please say you're drunk, because I think we could all just forgive you and move on if you were really, really drunk.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 10-16-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mheisig

Are you drunk? Please say you're drunk, because I think we could all just forgive you and move on if you were really, really drunk.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........a reply is looming......

chrisl4064 · 10-16-2007, 07:14 PM

samuels is an obvious pro-bowler again this year as usual. and its nto because of his name. offensive lineman are about the most judged players when it comes to the pro bowl. its not just a popularity contest for them.

jamf · 10-16-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mheisig

Are you drunk? Please say you're drunk, because I think we could all just forgive you and move on if you were really, really drunk.

No.
Riggins probably is, But I'm not...

jgalecpa · 10-16-2007, 08:29 PM

I have not been a CS fan in the past.

I thought he was decent, but not as great as he was portrayed.

I have a buddy who is no skins fan, but thought CS was good.

I said to watch everytime Ramsey gets sacked, more often than not there would be samuels Standing with his hands on his hips in the foreground of the picture, as his man was lying on our QB, and not in a brokeback mountain kind of way.

Within two weeks my Mets-Jets buddy saw what I saw and agreed with me.

HOWEVER, in the original spirit of the thread, I do believe he has been having his best year ever.

He is much improved, and finally living up to his reputation.

He has been getting some help, though I noticed this earlier in the year.
Especially during the Miami game, Cooley was over on the left side helping out. Of course, this was CS's first game back.

(Hate is a word that should not be used for people on a normal basis, unless you were previously married to them)

These are my two cents, for what that is worth.

J-Dawg

djnemo65 · 10-16-2007, 10:26 PM

I think we can't underestimate the negative impact that the Spurrier regime had on Samuels, both in terms of technique and confidence. We also have to give Buges and company props for really bringing the best out in these guys. If you had told me after 2003 that in a few years Dockery would sign a 50 million contract I would have called your sister an eskimo.

As for Samuels, you know are a good player when the best criticism that people can come up with against you is that you aren't as good as Walter Jones.

GMScud · 10-16-2007, 10:59 PM

I think Samuels is an outstanding LT. How many of you heard KGB's name during the Packers game? How many of you heard Sameuls' name? Exactly. One sign of a solid LT is when you never hear mention of his name or the name of the great passer he's blocking. I'd agree that Jones, Pace, and Samuels are the three best LTs in the NFC.

jamf, I'm sorry you hate him, but there aren't 5 guys better in the whole league at his position. Like him or not, we're fortunate to have him. I just hope this thread doesn't jinx his health (knocking on wood...)

10-16-2007, 05:00 PM	#20
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Chris Samuels is having his best year as a Pro Samuels gets into the pro-bowl because players and coaches vote for him. He is a first class LT and I pretty happy he's on our team and you should be too. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

10-16-2007, 05:54 PM	#21
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,261	Re: Chris Samuels is having his best year as a Pro John Riggens was pretty much ripping on him yesterday. I listened from 530-550pm on Monday and he was saying Samuels technique has really been pretty crappy and he is crossing his legs, something he should never do. I wish I remembered more of the specific plays they blamed him for and the exact mistakes he made but I kinda caught the end of it when I first got into my car. I haven’t noticed anything good or bad from Samuels this year, which is usually a good thing because I normally only notice bad plays by the O line not good ones. Anyone see him make a mistakes vs. Greenbay, or listened to Riggo Radio yesterday between 530-6?

10-16-2007, 07:14 PM	#26
chrisl4064 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lake Travis, Texas Age: 43 Posts: 786	Re: Chris Samuels is having his best year as a Pro samuels is an obvious pro-bowler again this year as usual. and its nto because of his name. offensive lineman are about the most judged players when it comes to the pro bowl. its not just a popularity contest for them.

10-16-2007, 08:29 PM	#28
jgalecpa Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 458	Re: Chris Samuels is having his best year as a Pro I have not been a CS fan in the past. I thought he was decent, but not as great as he was portrayed. I have a buddy who is no skins fan, but thought CS was good. I said to watch everytime Ramsey gets sacked, more often than not there would be samuels Standing with his hands on his hips in the foreground of the picture, as his man was lying on our QB, and not in a brokeback mountain kind of way. Within two weeks my Mets-Jets buddy saw what I saw and agreed with me. HOWEVER, in the original spirit of the thread, I do believe he has been having his best year ever. He is much improved, and finally living up to his reputation. He has been getting some help, though I noticed this earlier in the year. Especially during the Miami game, Cooley was over on the left side helping out. Of course, this was CS's first game back. (Hate is a word that should not be used for people on a normal basis, unless you were previously married to them) These are my two cents, for what that is worth. J-Dawg __________________ Theismann: You're wrong, the rule is wrong, the refs are wrong, and I'm right

10-16-2007, 10:26 PM	#29
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Chris Samuels is having his best year as a Pro I think we can't underestimate the negative impact that the Spurrier regime had on Samuels, both in terms of technique and confidence. We also have to give Buges and company props for really bringing the best out in these guys. If you had told me after 2003 that in a few years Dockery would sign a 50 million contract I would have called your sister an eskimo. As for Samuels, you know are a good player when the best criticism that people can come up with against you is that you aren't as good as Walter Jones.

10-16-2007, 10:59 PM	#30
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Chris Samuels is having his best year as a Pro I think Samuels is an outstanding LT. How many of you heard KGB's name during the Packers game? How many of you heard Sameuls' name? Exactly. One sign of a solid LT is when you never hear mention of his name or the name of the great passer he's blocking. I'd agree that Jones, Pace, and Samuels are the three best LTs in the NFC. jamf, I'm sorry you hate him, but there aren't 5 guys better in the whole league at his position. Like him or not, we're fortunate to have him. I just hope this thread doesn't jinx his health (knocking on wood...) __________________ Tardy

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