On Blache

[skinsfan69]

I said this another thread and I'll say again. The defense has been a top ten group the whole year. We're good at points allowed, yardage and 3 and outs. We don't sack the QB because we can't. We don't have pass rushers. The one real playmaker we had was tragically killled. The offense puts them in shitty postions all the time...like today when Santana had to show off after he scored....then our sorry as hell kicker kicks it out of bounds. Blache and his group has held it together considering the circumstances. We're not the most talented defesne but those guys get the job done. For anyone to call out Blache and the defense simply do not know a damn thing about football.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I said this another thread and I'll say again. The defense has been a top ten group the whole year. We're good at points allowed, yardage and 3 and outs. We don't sack the QB because we can't. We don't have pass rushers. The one real playmaker we had was tragically killled. The offense puts them in shitty postions all the time...like today when Santana had to show off after he scored....then our sorry as hell kicker kicks it out of bounds. Blache and his group has held it together considering the circumstances. We're not the most talented defesne but those guys get the job done. For anyone to call out Blache and the defense simply do not know a damn thing about football.

You took are single best defensive drive of the day, and used it as an argument that Blache never does anything wrong.

We have nothing but pass rushers at defensive end. That's all Chris Wilson, and Jason Taylor can do. Carter is a strong pass rusher. Even Evans is stronger against the pass than he is the run. Yet, they still never get sacks. Gee, it couldn't be because a man who claims that "sacks don't matter" is coaching the defense?

In 2003, Dick Jauron disciple Greg Blache told the media that "sacks don't matter" in the scheme of his defense, and his players backed up his words, finishing with a franchise-low 18.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You took are single best defensive drive of the day, and used it as an argument that Blache never does anything wrong.

We have nothing but pass rushers at defensive end. That's all Chris Wilson, and Jason Taylor can do. Carter is a strong pass rusher. Even Evans is stronger against the pass than he is the run. Yet, they still never get sacks. Gee, it couldn't be because a man who claims that "sacks don't matter" is coaching the defense?

Why don't you think they get sacks? Is it because Blache tells them not to rush the passer? Please! These comments make no sense what so ever. Yes we have guys that specialize in sacking the QB but they're not very good at it actually doing it. All the guys you mentioned would not start for NY or Dallas.

[MrJL]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Why don't you think they get sacks? Is it because Blache tells them not to rush the passer? Please! These comments make no sense what so ever. Yes we have guys that specialize in sacking the QB but they're not very good at it actually doing it. All the guys you mentioned would not start for NY or Dallas.

Or the D-philosophy doesn't allow for it.

I think Taylor and Carter are still starters elsewhere but I've heard the Blache's set-up actually encourages them to make sure it isn't a run before heading all out to the QB

[Hail to the Redskins]

As I said in another thread...

Our Defense (and definitely Blache) is NOT TO BLAME!!

The ONLY stat that matters is POINTS ALLOWED... or am I wrong??

* Our defense has not given up more than 24 points in a game all season (Pittsburgh is only other team to say that) - 12 teams are AVERAGING allowing more than 24 per game!! And one is a playoff team (Arizona)

* OUR defense averages giving up 19.0 per game - 7th in the NFL!!

* Our defense is doing this with an offense that is NOT controlling the clock or punters who are pinning teams back.

* Our defense SEEMS to be the problem because they have NO ROOM FOR ERROR... lol... if they give up 2 touchdowns in one game, we all know it's over (i.e. the Ravens game)

* Look at the games where our D gives in late in the 4th and they were games where our Offense went 3 & out for most of the 1st half (Dallas, Baltimore, Cincinnati) and the D was on the field for much of the day... holding the other team at bay...

Really, when you think about it, Blache deserves A LOT of credit.. I think... We have absolutely no pass rush (which puts pressure on our secondary), but Blache's philosophy is "the team that runs more productively will win the majority of games" ...

So his scheme is allowing us to have a top passing defense (opposing pass offenses have terrible numbers against us - 55% completions & 75.1 QB rating) while still being an above average run stopping team (ranked 10th, 3.8 ypc)... this equals not many points allowed.... WHICH IS WHAT REALLY MATTERS...

and although I HATE not getting pressure, the stats above don't lie...

[Ruhskins]

If our offense would have been average (instead of mediocre), we wouldn't be having this discussion. Our defense is good, but it is not as great as let's say Baltimore. In my opinion, the defense has been carrying this team probably since Gibbs came back. And I think we're getting to the point where the defense cannot do that anymore. I mean look at today, the offense did not have a first down until the 2nd Qtr!! Tell me of a defense that can play a whole game without getting tired under these circumstances. A lot of ppl on this thread have been calling for a better pass rush, turnover, and a strong showing in the last few minutes of the game. But if you're playing defense while your team is down, you're not going to have may blitz opportunities. If your defense is constantly on the field, you're going to run out of steam. And we've seen in a couple of games the offense waste opportunities created by the defense with a pick or a fumble recovered. I mean if your offense doesn't creat points of turnover, then you can't fault the defense. I'd be curious to know our total points of turnovers have been this season; which I would bet that it would be low.

[GTripp0012]

Just understand that as long as Blache is the coordinator, sack totals aren't going to increase. Low sack totals were a staple in Chicago, and our 21 sacks this year aren't much better.

[MrJL]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Just understand that as long as Blache is the coordinator, sack totals aren't going to increase. Low sack totals were a staple in Chicago, and our 21 sacks this year aren't much better.

Again, that's what I'm concerned about there.

Looking at the teams that win the Super Bowl, and hell even the ones who just beat us I can't help but think sacks do matter.

[irish]

The Skins have a good D but it doesnt make stops when the game is on the line, doesnt win games, doesnt turn games around. Somehow they need to find a way to take that next step from good to great.

[birdz4gibbs]

like momma says if you don,t have anything good to say don,t say anything at all..
so i,ll just be quiet and deal with this slide this team keeps finding themselve being in every year at this point in the season...

thats about it ....

[jbcjr14]

Originally Posted by birdz4gibbs

like momma says if you don,t have anything good to say don,t say anything at all..
so i,ll just be quiet and deal with this slide this team keeps finding themselve being in every year at this point in the season...

thats about it ....

This is the first time in three years the team has had a "slide" in December....

[Paintrain]

I'm not a huge fan of Blache's scheme and philosophy of not trying to generate pressure by blitzing and us not creating many turnovers, but that being said, if we just averaged 20 PPG, we wouldn't be talking about Blache or the defense at all.

[MrJL]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I'm not a huge fan of Blache's scheme and philosophy of not trying to generate pressure by blitzing and us not creating many turnovers, but that being said, if we just averaged 20 PPG, we wouldn't be talking about Blache or the defense at all.

I agree. I'm not saying the D is bad. It's just not good enough that he should be untouchable.

And changing the O will on;y make next season worst. There's no such thing as a system that a coach just installs and it miraculously brings about everyone's best right away.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by MrJL

I agree. I'm not saying the D is bad. It's just not good enough that he should be untouchable.

And changing the O will on;y make next season worst. There's no such thing as a system that a coach just installs and it miraculously brings about everyone's best right away.

I applaud you MrJL. A moment of clarity.

[53Fan]

I found this interesting. Check out where the top 10 teams in sacks are. Pressure-packed: Contenders increasingly becoming sack-religious