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Old 04-27-2009, 12:08 AM   #1
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Re: Most Likely First Round Bust

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Andre Smith + Bengals Locker Room = Bust.
Don't you guys think it's kinda early to assume who would be bust??

On another hand, Ruh made a pretty good point.. Teams and locker rooms does make a big difference..
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:36 AM   #2
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Don't you guys think it's kinda early to assume who would be bust??

On another hand, Ruh made a pretty good point.. Teams and locker rooms does make a big difference..
Yes, it is early to "assume." That is why I used the verb "guesstimate" in the thread, meaning "take a stab just for fun."
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:21 AM   #3
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Hopefully its Maclin that would suck if he started tearing it up.. I personally think Stafford is a joke so damn overrated its ridiculous. Say all you want about is monster arm and his mechanics. Ive seen this kid play in college since he was younger and less hyped he is okay. Definetly the prize QB of the draft since there were no great QBs at all in this draft except Sanchez who is overhyped just the same. But yep let him collect his cool 41 million and be average. Heyward Bey definetely a reach why would you pass on a talent like Crabtree. Tyson Jackson is good I think but 3rd overall??? Also Josh Freeman yea he is big, and big arm but is terribly inconsistent and makes bad decisions. And Ruh said it best Andre Smith in the Bengals locker room thats a laugh. The kid is dumb as bricks and has a bad work ethic lets put him with the team that is all about bad decisions. So glad we got Orakpo though out of all the others
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:15 AM   #4
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Re: Most Likely First Round Bust

Aaron Maybin DE from Penn State.
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:27 AM   #5
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Aaron Maybin DE from Penn State.
Agreed, but let's thank Buffalo for going Maybin over Orakpo at #11!
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:44 PM   #6
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aaron maybin de from penn state.

i agree!
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:20 AM   #7
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Haha Heyword-Bay is such an easy target here, 7th overall and he probably would have fell out of the first round. His only saving grace is Russel has the strongest arm in the NFL, BAR NONE, and Bay is a speedster, maybe they can develop some chemistry.
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:08 AM   #8
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Re: Most Likely First Round Bust

Stafford or Sanchez... lets face it... you hit with the QB's about 50% of the time... one of them is going to suck
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Maclin, or Maybin. both undersized.
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For some strange reason, I think Dirty Sanchez is going to be a star. Hell, what do I know, I thought Pat Ramsey was going to lead us.
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:27 PM   #13
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Maybe Maclin... I don't think he will be used much.
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:50 PM   #14
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Re: Most Likely First Round Bust

Darrius Heyward-Bey is likely to enjoy some level of good QB play before the end of 2011 in Oakland, and I would not tag him as a likely bust, even though the longer he withers in Oakland the more likely it will become.

Hakeem Nicks will bust in New York. Aaron Maybin has a good chance to bust in Buffalo. Jeremy Maclin, I don't see him ever climbing the depth chart in Philly. Even with three receivers, they'd have to let some of their better players go to make room for him, and that would be a mistake. Larry English could wash out very, very easily in San Diego.

Freeman is a huge question mark, because I don't think he's in a good situation in Tampa. I do favor his potential though over, say, Stafford, who I think as crazy as this may sound, will not bust because he's in a much better situation. Sanchez, I think, is in a better situation than Freeman, and will have a league average career.

But if I'm being asked for just one name of whom will fail epically, I'm going with Percy Harvin in Minnesota.
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Darrius Heyward-Bey is likely to enjoy some level of good QB play before the end of 2011 in Oakland, and I would not tag him as a likely bust, even though the longer he withers in Oakland the more likely it will become.

Hakeem Nicks will bust in New York. Aaron Maybin has a good chance to bust in Buffalo. Jeremy Maclin, I don't see him ever climbing the depth chart in Philly. Even with three receivers, they'd have to let some of their better players go to make room for him, and that would be a mistake. Larry English could wash out very, very easily in San Diego.

Freeman is a huge question mark, because I don't think he's in a good situation in Tampa. I do favor his potential though over, say, Stafford, who I think as crazy as this may sound, will not bust because he's in a much better situation. Sanchez, I think, is in a better situation than Freeman, and will have a league average career.

But if I'm being asked for just one name of whom will fail epically, I'm going with Percy Harvin in Minnesota.
I listened to KC Joyner, "football scientist", last night on espn radio & found his analysis of players very insightful. He said he studied the routes of wr's & after comparing them, had this to say:

1) Heyward Bey did not run that many vertical routes in college, but it was the one route that he ran well. He doesn't cut very quickly & doesn't run most routes very efficiently. Not great hands either.

2) Percy Harvin didn't run many vertical routes, despite the press about his great speed. Overall he didn't run a wide variety of routes & Fla. got him the ball in a variety of ways, including handoffs.

3) Hakeem Nicks doesn't have great "vertical speed" but he gets in & out of his breaks quickly & runs the deep in, 20 yards & cut inside, very well. He compared him to Torry Holt, a wr that never had great speed but could get open downfield. He felt there were only some fairly minor tweaks to his route running that were needed to make him an effective pro.

I saw Nicks a few times & thought he had great hands & was a strong, physical wr. I liked him before, but I think he might be the best of this class after listening to Joyner.

Overall Joyner thought Harvin & Heyard-Bey were much lesser wr's at this point & he questioned if both were capable of being good nfl recievers.
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