Faulk's top 5 TE'S NO COOLEY!!!!!

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Like every other Redskins fan I am a big Chris Cooley supporter. Have the authentic jersey, multiple autographs, etc. to prove it. But you can't just dismiss Owen Daniels because you have (probably) never seen him play and his name is not familiar. He is a slightly more dynamic player than Cooley and has an edge in athleticism. I mean, I'd take Cooley on my team any day, and you can make the argument that he has had four consistently good seasons (of five) in a row while Daniels only has two (of three), but it is by no means crazy to place Daniels above Cooley. Cooley is right there with those guys, who cares if he is "#6" or "#7." And as far as production goes, it is really close so I don't know how you can use that criteria to exclude Daniels.

Daniels -

2007 - 63 catches, 768 yards, 3 tds
2008 - 70 catches, 862 yards, 2 tds

Cooley -

2007 - 66 catches, 786 yards, 8 tds
2008 - 83 catches, 849 yards, 1 td

I'm not excluding Dainels, I just think he's a very good receiving TE. Cooley is an all around TE. He's definitely a better blocker, has good hands, and can stretch the field. The list should be based on all the attributes (not just receiving) a TE should have and Cooley has a little bit of everything.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

SHOCKER...not. News flash, peoples top five is subjective. It usually is what that individual believes is his or hers top five...and most often it's their favorite players not based off of talent or statistics.

Also I'm betting he's making his judgement off of last yrs performance. Cooley's worst yr.

Actually last season was his best year as a Pro... he just didnt score any TD's (1), so no one noticed.

[44Deezel]

For what it's worth, here is Pete Prisco's top 10 list. Cooley is either 4th or 8th. Can't really tell:

NFL - CBSSports.com Football

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

For what it's worth, here is Pete Prisco's top 10 list. Cooley is either 4th or 8th. Can't really tell:

NFL - CBSSports.com Football

Prisco has him 8th, ducnan? has him 4th.

[hooskins]

I agree Cooley over Owen Daniel. Like someone said it is an opinion. If you are really up why don't you take it up with Faulk himself.

[skinsfaninok]

Gonzalez should be in the top 5, but Dallas Clark should be out. He is a product of the system just as Edgerin James was. The skins are so underrated (Especially in Oklahoma)... I have seen maybe 2 Skins fans here in 8 years. You would think that this organization has never won anything. Last time I checked we have won 3 Superbowls and have played in 5.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Gonzalez should be in the top 5, but Dallas Clark should be out. He is a product of the system just as Edgerin James was. The skins are so underrated (Especially in Oklahoma)... I have seen maybe 2 Skins fans here in 8 years. You would think that this organization has never won anything. Last time I checked we have won 3 Superbowls and have played in 5.

I never understood the 'system' player or product of a system guy.
Each team has their own system, Isnt that the coach's job? to have his players in the best position to maximize their talents and help their team win.

[an23dy]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I never understood the 'system' player or product of a system guy.
Each team has their own system, Isnt that the coach's job? to have his players in the best position to maximize their talents and help their team win.

What people mean by a system guy is you can plug anybody in there and they'll do just as good. They're trying to say there's nothing special about Dallas Clark and that another player would do better if Peyton were throwing him the ball and there were good plays and other receivers to allow him to get open. I disagree, I think Dallas Clark is real good, he makes a lot of tough catches. I think Cooley should be ahead of Daniels, but most people would say Daniels put up better stats last year, although the difference is minimal. Cooley had a bad year last year, a lot was out of his control, had to help block more bc of the bad o-line, limited playbook, receivers weren't that good last year, but other than a few extra fumbles Cooley made tough catches and was tough in getting YAC and did what he normally does but his numbers were worse bc of things out of his control, the players and system around him.

Anybody think Fred Davis will ever crack this list? I think he has a chance with another team in a few years, but with us I think he's just gonna sit behind Cooley while he's here.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by an23dy

What people mean by a system guy is you can plug anybody in there and they'll do just as good. They're trying to say there's nothing special about Dallas Clark and that another player would do better if Peyton were throwing him the ball and there were good plays and other receivers to allow him to get open. I disagree, I think Dallas Clark is real good, he makes a lot of tough catches. I think Cooley should be ahead of Daniels, but most people would say Daniels put up better stats last year, although the difference is minimal. Cooley had a bad year last year, a lot was out of his control, had to help block more bc of the bad o-line, limited playbook, receivers weren't that good last year, but other than a few extra fumbles Cooley made tough catches and was tough in getting YAC and did what he normally does but his numbers were worse bc of things out of his control, the players and system around him.

Anybody think Fred Davis will ever crack this list? I think he has a chance with another team in a few years, but with us I think he's just gonna sit behind Cooley while he's here.

I think Dallas Clark would do well in any offense. to say if we pulled him out of indy he wouldnt be as good is kindof crazy IMO.

[kenny]

I don't know exactly whom Cooley should replace, but i do known one thing for sure..and that is..COoLEY should definitely stay on the list! He's a great player man!

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Gonzalez should be in the top 5, but Dallas Clark should be out. He is a product of the system just as Edgerin James was. The skins are so underrated (Especially in Oklahoma)... I have seen maybe 2 Skins fans here in 8 years. You would think that this organization has never won anything. Last time I checked we have won 3 Superbowls and have played in 5.

Try bein a Skins fan in Saint country

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Try bein a Skins fan in Saint country

LOL I was born in Biloxi, MS trust me I know how you feel..

[Darrell_Green_28]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Try bein a Skins fan in Saint country

Funny you should say that, I spent most of my life in the New Orleans area until Katrina and was always a Skins fan, so I know how it is as my brother is a big time saints fan though..

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

Funny you should say that, I spent most of my life in the New Orleans area until Katrina and was always a Skins fan, so I know how it is as my brother is a big time saints fan though..

It is so annoying when the 'Skins are playing a big game against the Giants or something like that, and instead you must watch a blockbuster like the Saints-Lions simply because you are in the Saints tv area. Ugh.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It is so annoying when the 'Skins are playing a big game against the Giants or something like that, and instead you must watch a blockbuster like the Saints-Lions simply because you are in the Saints tv area. Ugh.

Come on Bro you ever heard of DirectTV NFL Ticket. If you serious fan you got to have the NFL Package bro. I have been in LosAngeles since 1984 and as soon as DirectTV came out I was on it.