Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

My plan in a nutshell, I would fire Haslett right after the season and get the best available DC in here, and I would focus free agency and the draft on totally revamping the secondary.

I'm agreeing with this. Our defensive coach seem like middle of the pack guys even if we had good players. If we can identify a coordinator that looks like a better fit and has a better resume, I think we should improve that. Our offense is really starting to hum and the Shanahans have shown that they are able to adapt to get the best out of our rookies.

I always hate to hear a question like "should we fire the coach now or after the season". It reminds me of people that quit a job because they don't like it but don't have anything else lined up. These things need to be done in a responsible way.

[mlmpetert]

Ive never been a big Mike Shanahan fan, at least since hes been our head coach, but theres no way i would fire him right now.

Griffen has been beyond wildest dream expectations and the last thing i want to do is compromise anything by bringing in a new coaching regime. I think Griffen is so smart, so physically gifted and so skilled that a change wouldnt set him back much, if at all, but its still not a risk i would want to take.

I also dont think Shanahan was ever intended to be the long term answer. I feel like Shanahan is really here to turn this team around with the intent to promote from within after he puts in his 5 or so years. After Tom Coughlin, i think Shanahan is tied with Belichick as being the oldest NFL coach. Once Coughlin and Belichick stop winning theyre not going to look for a new team to start coaching, theyre gonna retire (or maybe take on a Bill Parcels roll). We currently have Kyle, Haslett and Morris all prepping for the day Mike steps aside. Unfortunately besides Morris the thought of Kyle or Haslett taking over scares the shit out of me.

I think Mike has to fire Hasslett, probably this season at the bye. Mike f'd up by switching to the 3-4 at the time he did but unfortunately for Haslett thats just life goes. In the meantime I would really like to see what Morris can do with our defense, especially if hes the shoe-in for d-coordinator next year.

[CrustyRedskin]

If Morris was a good enough candidate to be the next DC then he would be making chicken salad out of the secondary he has to work with. I say he goes too and get some fresh blood on the D side of things.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

You cannot expect anything as long as we have this piss poor pass D. With RG3, the Skins can beat anyone, but with this D, they can also lose to anyone. And don't say that Orakpo would cure all these issues on D. He's a nice player, but no DeMarcus Ware or Jason Pierre Paul.

Absolute truth. We can beat anyone with RG3...we can lose to anyone with this D. Mike would get alot more of my respect if he would admit there needed to be some major changes made with this defense and not allow his son to send the most talented QB this franchise has ever had..who by the way is just coming off a mild concussion...out as a WR where he is fair game to LB's and DB's who are drooling to get a shot at him. WTF man???

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Absolute truth. We can beat anyone with RG3...we can lose to anyone with this D. Mike would get alot more of my respect if he would admit there needed to be some major changes made with this defense and not allow his son to send the most talented QB this franchise has ever had..who by the way is just coming off a mild concussion...out as a WR where he is fair game to LB's and DB's who are drooling to get a shot at him. WTF man???

That was his Superbowl play when the Broncos played the skins and went up 10-0, then Doug Williams took over and the rest is history.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Absolute truth. We can beat anyone with RG3...we can lose to anyone with this D. Mike would get alot more of my respect if he would admit there needed to be some major changes made with this defense and not allow his son to send the most talented QB this franchise has ever had..who by the way is just coming off a mild concussion...out as a WR where he is fair game to LB's and DB's who are drooling to get a shot at him. WTF man???

Yeah that was not good, instead of concentrating on 3rd and 9 i think it was, so they were expecting pass anyway.

[scowan]

This team lacks talent still and has a ton of injuries at the spots that are letting us down. No starting caliber Safties, no OLB or DE, no 1st WR or TE. The pass to Hankerson for the TD that he dropped would have been Garcon=TD, the pass to Paulson would have been Fredd Davis=completion. They are missing too many parts. If they loose a couple of O-Linemen, we won't win another game. As it is, they might get Garcon back after the bye and their starting Safety. Got to win against the Panthers, then come out of the bye 4-5 with the division ahead of us. With some healthy players they can beat the Boys and the Eagles.

[SKINS73]

If we get a win going into the bye week I can see us finishing 7-9 or 8-8. I would consider either of those records a successful season.

[SFREDSKIN]

I remember when Shanahan was hired he said he had a year to study offense and defenses in the NFL and that he was ready to coach again. The disappointing part is that in that year all he could muster was Jim Haslett for his DC.

[iRepDMV]

No, firing Mike Shanahan doesn't make sense. Fire Jim Haslett. Our defense has never been in the top 10 ever since we made the switch to the 3-4. "Mirror to the Steelers defense" ...my ass. Anyone else like the idea of going back to the 4-3.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by mooby

You are literally the only person who believes our offense is trending downward. I mean seriously. You're the only person who thinks everything the offense does, turnovers, w/e, is the fault of the coordinators for calling the wrong plays. It's f'n asinine.

And the hilarious thing is Garcon had his best season as a pro with Dan Orlovsky and that other scrub they had at qb last year, not with Peyton.

Have you not watched us the last three weeks? 38 points against Minnesota, and RG3 played out of his mind. Like arguably the best QB performance of the season. Then 23 points against NY. Then 12 points yesterday.

Do you not understand what trend means? Or is it the downward concept?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Hank, imo, has been borderline disappointment. He doesnt play fast enough and when he does he drops it. Robinson and Briscoe have done zilch this year. Garcon injuried all year and Morgan is a decent no. 2. Moss is almost done. I dont think WR is squared away at all, in fact its been a major disappointment. Garcon should just IR at this point.

^^ Arguably the biggest criticism/indictment of the regime to date. We threw millions at FA, at an enormous opportunity cost, and used a high round pick on another WR, and yet the WR corp is a "major disappointment."

For the life of me I cannot grasp how people point out the repeated failures of this regime, but then say they're getting it right or will get it right, given another few years.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by The Goat

^^ Arguably the biggest criticism/indictment of the regime to date. We threw millions at FA, at an enormous opportunity cost, and used a high round pick on another WR, and yet the WR corp is a "major disappointment."

For the life of me I cannot grasp how people point out the repeated failures of this regime, but then say they're getting it right or will get it right, given another few years.

4 more years!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by irish

This team has major injuries on defense and outside of RG3 they really dont have much talent at all on offense. I'm surprised at how good they have looked at times considering how little talent this team has. Shanny can stay cause he isnt the problem.

The complete lack of talent minus RG-3 that you see is completely Shannys problem. Cant say the cake is bad but the baker is good.


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[los panda]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The complete lack of talent minus RG-3 that you see is completely Shannys problem. Cant say the cake is bad but the baker is good.


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