Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You really don't think there are not companies that the US could contract to help resolve this issue.

There are not. The Navy, Coast Guard, and the US Government has already said that. BP is the only company that has the expertise with these DEEP SEA wells. The other companies are not set up for such operations at an extreme depth.

The government has contacted James Cameron, the director, due to his deep-water expertise, and the fact that he built the ROV that was the first in the world to find the wreck of the titanic, which ironically sank in extreme depths.

I doubt that Cameron has a solution, based on the fact that all known possible "solutions" have failed to date. And now, they are saying that a relief well is not a 100% chance...so what do you do when the relief well fails? With BP's track record so far, you know it's inevitable.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You really don't think there are not companies that the US could contract to help resolve this issue.

Take a deep breath and sit down for this first, I have some earth shattering news for you:

The private sector does not have the answer for everything.

[CRedskinsRule]

They are still working at it:

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PORT FOURCHON, La. - As the crude crept closer to Florida, the effort to contain the nation's worst oil spill hit a snag Wednesday when a diamond-edged saw became stuck in a thick pipe on a blown-out well at the bottom of the Gulf.

It took hours, but robots freed the saw late in the day and the operation to cut through the pipe resumed, a source familiar with the operation told Reuters.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Take a deep breath and sit down for this first, I have some earth shattering news for you:

The private sector does not have the answer for everything.

Maybe not, but with the right motivation the private sector very often finds a workable solution. In this case, clearly with govt support, there are several motivating factors for a private sector oil leader to come up with a solution. 1) if a company makes a breakthrough and finds a creative, effective way to end this, they get HIGH Publicity and advertising capital for their company. 2) if the solution is patent-able, they could make a profit by their design. 3) the company that stops it, if BP were to throw up their hands, would have an upper hand in the foreseeable future of deep sea drilling.

IF, and I don't believe this will be the case, it goes unstopped till August, this will be the equivalent to deepsea drilling that 3-Mile island was to Nuclear energy in this country.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Maybe not, but with the right motivation the private sector very often finds a workable solution. In this case, clearly with govt support, there are several motivating factors for a private sector oil leader to come up with a solution. 1) if a company makes a breakthrough and finds a creative, effective way to end this, they get HIGH Publicity and advertising capital for their company. 2) if the solution is patent-able, they could make a profit by their design. 3) the company that stops it, if BP were to throw up their hands, would have an upper hand in the foreseeable future of deep sea drilling.

IF, and I don't believe this will be the case, it goes unstopped till August, this will be the equivalent to deepsea drilling that 3-Mile island was to Nuclear energy in this country.

It seems there are a lot of arm-chair deep sea engineers around these days. The problem isn't so trivial...if anyone had a solution you don't think BP itself would have contract them? Also, this is a time sensitive issue so no one is going to stick their neck out just because they "think" they have a solution. Plus no one wants their name mentioned in a liability lawsuit.

Anywho, as it stands this problem is being "solved" by BP and its silent partners including Exxon Mobile.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

It seems there are a lot of arm-chair deep sea engineers around these days. The problem isn't so trivial...if anyone had a solution you don't think BP itself would have contract them? Also, this is a time sensitive issue so no one is going to stick their neck out just because they "think" they have a solution. Plus no one wants their name mentioned in a liability lawsuit.

Anywho, as it stands this problem is being "solved" by BP and its silent partners including Exxon Mobile.

Please don't misrepresent my words. This is not a trivial exercise. HOWEVER, the motivation to put resources towards being the company that develops a solution increases as the time goes on.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Take a deep breath and sit down for this first, I have some earth shattering news for you:

The private sector does not have the answer for everything.

If you go back I was asking earlier in this thread why Obama was not doing anything to help get this stopped. He answered that the other day because he said 300 times and his adminisrtation has said 600 times that they have been there sense day 1.

[firstdown]

Has anyone thought of purchasing any BP stock?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by saden1

It seems there are a lot of arm-chair deep sea engineers around these days. The problem isn't so trivial...if anyone had a solution you don't think BP itself would have contract them? Also, this is a time sensitive issue so no one is going to stick their neck out just because they "think" they have a solution. Plus no one wants their name mentioned in a liability lawsuit.

Anywho, as it stands this problem is being "solved" by BP and its silent partners including Exxon Mobile.

lol so true

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Why would they care though, honestly? They are already set to lose billions over this, people from their company are going to jail, and they probably will go out of business as a result, so why would they care what happens now.

Others have said it, but our hands as a country, are truly tied. We lack the personnel, experience, or equipment to tackle this if we shove BP out of the way. They can do whatever they want, quit or whatever, and there isn't a damned thing we can do about it.

Simple point is they have to keep trying. They can't just say oh well we can't fix it, see you in August when the relief well is ready. That's not gonna fly.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol so true

I kid you not, I had this one numb-nut at the bar tell me "we should nuke it, turn the seabed into glass and be done with it."

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Please don't misrepresent my words. This is not a trivial exercise. HOWEVER, the motivation to put resources towards being the company that develops a solution increases as the time goes on.

Misrepresent your words? Huh? I merely expanded on the subject.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

Misrepresent your words? Huh? I merely expanded on the subject.

Gotcha. Sorry.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

I kid you not, I had this one numb-nut at the bar tell me "we should nuke it, turn the seabed into glass and be done with it."

A bit more complicated than "turn the seabed to glass" but an option that should be investigated if it has a track record of success. At this point no option should be off the table.

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[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

This is like a really, really bad nightmare that just won't end. I hope BP goes out of business after all of this. They certainly deserve to.

I agree with you, but let's hope it's after they've paid every last dime to clean the damage and compensate the victims.

Analysts: BP's $70B loss overdone - Jun. 1, 2010

Sure makes that $ 500K acoustic device look a lot more cost effective now.