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Old 05-09-2007, 12:00 AM   #31
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Except this time they relaxed the rules on the workouts expecting full attendance for the OTAs.
ok, so what about CP missing it? Does that mean he doesnt wanna be on the Skins??
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:24 AM   #32
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ok, so what about CP missing it? Does that mean he doesnt wanna be on the Skins??
Your mom want's to be on the Skins!
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:37 AM   #33
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ok, so what about CP missing it? Does that mean he doesnt wanna be on the Skins??
Portis was in attendance, just on the sidelines b/c of the shoulder....
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Old 05-09-2007, 01:18 AM   #34
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Doesn't anyone remember that Sean Taylor was working out at Redskins Park earlier in the Offseason. So what if he is not here now. You guys act like we are going to lose him or something. Sean Taylor isn't going anywhere any time soon. I don't see us losing Springs this offseason either. Stop getting your panties in a bunch over stupid shit.

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No Surprises at OTAs When It Comes To The MIAs

Springs and Taylor not at the start of OTA practices today at Redskins Park. I am off this week and Howard is holding it down, but figured I'd post while I feed Rocco.
I heard over the weekend that Springs had no plans to come in this month. He's still thinking he'll get cut - and who can blame him after being asked to take a pay cut then being shopped around the league all offseason? - and from what I hear, he's content to keep working out in Arizona and see what happens with the Skins.
He's said all along that if they can guarantee they'll keep him around at his slated salary, then he'll be the happiest camper around. But with the way this offseason has played out, he figures he might as well keep doing his thing and wait and see what happens by the time mandatory mini camp starts. Stay tuned.
As for Taylor, well his past speaks for itself. I'll know more tomorrow and maybe it turns out to be an "excused" absence, but as of late tonight the coaches and scouts didn't know of an excuse if there was one (and if upper management knew why Taylor wasn't here, they hadn't told anybody). I am told Sean was around the facility for the start of the workout program 5-6 weeks back and looked great and sounded great and the thought in the organization was that everything was cool ... but the players think otherwise and are convinced that Taylor isn't going to be around for a while and their read on the situation is that he wants to get paid.
Again, we'll see what the official word is on all of this, but his peers - many of whom had not talked to Sean in a while - were not surprised by his absence and figured it was an indication of his contract.
Some people want to label me negative or whatever, but I speak the truth people and told you guys weeks ago that drafting Landry could cause big ripples for the resident hard-hitting safety, and that we'll see how well these two get along. Staying away from OTAs is the classic Rosenhaus move, yet he's the agent of choice in these parts. Go figure. Yet another in a long line of mysterious Ashburn phenomena.
Now, skipping OTAs is no major offense - although in Coach Joe's eyes it's a big deal - and he's not breaking any laws. But it's also a passive aggressive statement about his level of happiness with the organization, and for someone whose development stunted last year and needs to start playing up to the mythic reputation some have created for him, it's a bad move.
He, more than anyone else, needs to be in there studying, learning the new nuances and changes of this defense and getting a read on opponents. He is the poster boy for OTAs are for, and he's not there for the second time in three years. Getting arrested in Florida while skipping out in 2005 hasn't made a major change in his thinking, apparently, when it comes to spring football.
Maybe he needed an extra day or two to tend to personal business or whatever, in which case, it's understandable. But I also think if that's the case than more coaches and people in the facility would have already known about it and been prepared for it.
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Old 05-09-2007, 01:21 AM   #35
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It must be a contract issue because Taylor doesn't have a history of being awol during minicamp.....oh wait, actually he does, and the last time we and the media both assumed it was contract related only to have him show up on time for training camp with nary a mention of anything financial. Given that recent history, I think we should hold off speculating about the guy for the time being. He is as mercurial as they come and to conjecture about his intentions is just silly.
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It must be a contract issue because Taylor doesn't have a history of being awol during minicamp.....oh wait, actually he does, and the last time we and the media both assumed it was contract related only to have him show up on time for training camp with nary a mention of anything financial. Given that recent history, I think we should hold off speculating about the guy for the time being. He is as mercurial as they come and to conjecture about his intentions is just silly.
Well the beat reporter for the Washington Post is speculating the exact same thing. What do you need, a call from Drew Rosenhaus?

This would have happened last year if he wasn't tied up with the courts.
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Old 05-09-2007, 01:31 AM   #37
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I'm really starting to cool on JLC. I appreciate his insider info but it seems like he is increasingly willing to go out of his way to slam the Skins. Landry hasn't even signed a contract yet but somehow the very knowledge of his contract's inevitability is already tearing the team apart? I think it was when he slammed us for trading Arch, after ripping the team for acquiring him for an entire year, that I turned on him.
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Old 05-09-2007, 01:33 AM   #38
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Well the beat reporter for the Washington Post is speculating the exact same thing. What do you need, a call from Drew Rosenhaus?

This would have happened last year if he wasn't tied up with the courts.
When was the last time Rosenhaus orchestrated a clandestine hold out without letting his intentions be known? And what's the point of holding out for money if you don't tell people that you are holding out for money?

Look, maybe you are right, but I just think that it's best to hear it from Taylor or Rosenhaus first before we go throwing around theories, especially since we have been wrong about this guy in the past on the exact same issue.
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I'm really starting to cool on JLC. I appreciate his insider info but it seems like he is increasingly willing to go out of his way to slam the Skins. Landry hasn't even signed a contract yet but somehow the very knowledge of his contract's inevitability is already tearing the team apart? I think it was when he slammed us for trading Arch, after ripping the team for acquiring him for an entire year, that I turned on him.
And the Redskins have done what to avoid being slammed?

I don't think that signing Landry is going to tear the team apart but he is about to get a fat check. Anyone who honestly thinks that Taylor is going to accept that they are willing to pay not only Archuleta but also Landry more money is naive. Sean is bigger, stronger, more experienced and just better. This is not a bad thing. Taylor deserves to make more money than Landry and the Redskins can afford to pay him. This is a no brainer.
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And the Redskins have done what to avoid being slammed?

I don't think that signing Landry is going to tear the team apart but he is about to get a fat check. Anyone who honestly thinks that Taylor is going to accept that they are willing to pay not only Archuleta but also Landry more money is naive. Sean is bigger, stronger, more experienced and just better. This is not a bad thing. Taylor deserves to make more money than Landry and the Redskins can afford to pay him. This is a no brainer.
That's a very good point. We used the 5th overall pick on Taylor, and now back to back years we're gonna bring in a new safety and give him more money than ST? Can't really blame him for wanting a new contract.
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Old 05-09-2007, 04:19 AM   #41
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I'm really starting to cool on JLC. I appreciate his insider info but it seems like he is increasingly willing to go out of his way to slam the Skins.
JLC seems to have much support around here. IMO he is not good for the Redskins at all. I think there is a pretty big conflict of interest, but I am in the minority. He is a pawn and a Redskin Insider he is not. Once again IMO.
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Old 05-09-2007, 04:29 AM   #42
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ST continues to be an enigma. I would honestly rather pay him now, because man, he is going to have a big year. At the same time, I hate when players bargain after a down year. If he had bigger balls, he would just play his ass off, get a justified prowbowl bid, and THEN sit down and negotiate. This is the typical tough guy primadonna move.
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Old 05-09-2007, 04:48 AM   #43
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Yeah Sean Taylor has no leverage at all. Case closed. Great you are a very good player. When you become great call us back and you can have that raise so you can be more of a millionaire.
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:41 AM   #44
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Funny Taylor say's nothing but everyone knows what he's thinking! I would like to see the quote that he say's he is unhappy with his contract and want's to restructure? Of coarse every player would love more money but not to the extent of a holdout, Taylor said 2 years ago that the mini camps are not mandatory therefore he doesn't need to be there. I am also just tired of hearing that Taylor is being moved out by Landry, does anyone have a clue why we picked Landry so high? IT'S BECAUSE WE NEEDED A SAFETY WHO WOULD ALLOW TAYLOR TO BE EVERYTHING THAT HE CAN BE! Landry is not a replacement, he is a compliment to Taylor. For some reason I see post after post of individuals who can't get it out of thier heads that there are 2 safety positions not 1, as if you need only 1 good safety, and who cares for the other safety position. The last thing Taylor wants is a new contract after last season, he now has safety help and poised to have a monster year, then he can get paid.
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:01 AM   #45
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i cant wait for the season to start, so we can stop talking about stupid stuff like this
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