One thing will never change.

[redrock-skins]

What about the play where the Broncos argued the Brunell grounded the ball and the refs go ahead 30 seconds after the play is over and then toss the flag? It was grounding, but I thought arguing with the refs doesn't change the call?

[bertoskins]

this will only mean one thing
we should start winning like the colts do
a 10 to 15 pont margin

so that any tuck rule will not cost us any game
and this can be attainable
by the way tha brunnel and the offense plays


just give us few more weeks
and we will put points in the board
as well as shut down opposing teams


go skins

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by bertoskins

this will only mean one thing
we should start winning like the colts do
a 10 to 15 pont margin

so that any tuck rule will not cost us any game
and this can be attainable
by the way tha brunnel and the offense plays


just give us few more weeks
and we will put points in the board
as well as shut down opposing teams


go skins

Just curious. Is there a reason your posts come out looking like haikus?

[BigSKINBauer]

it is poetic, should be in a book

[mooby]

people talk about portis, but the thing is i want to see rushing tds from him, i mean his yards are nice, but hey, tds are more important. i think it's time for portis to get serious and have a big day against the chiefs. this drought has to stop. but another person i'm impressed with is mark brunell. who would've thought in four games he'd have 6 tds and 2 ints? that's pretty damn good.

[MTK]

I don't care who gets them or how, bottom line is we need more TDs period.

We racked up over 400 yards today and moved the ball at will at times, with that kind of yardage we should be putting up 30+ points.

[Daseal]

The only thing I dislike with the offense thus far is our goal line packages for rushing, they simply don't seem to work. We need to find SOME way to punch it in, we're playing much better than I expected this year though, I don't feel as if we can complain TOO much.

[hail_2_da_skins]

Everytime I saw Tatum Bell break off tackle and race for 50+ yards, I was wondering, WHY IS LEVAR ARRINGTION ON THE BENCH? I've been watching Holdman closely and he is not spectacular. He gets blocked and caught up in traffic. When he does make the play he barely brings the runner down. When Levar gets to the carrier, he brings the PAIN. He hits with impact. Other than Sean Taylor, that's missing out there. The defense is not the reason we lost the game, but the Skins have an impact player riding the pine and it doesn't make sense. The Skins are not creating enough turnovers. They need their BIG HITTER out there. If the Skins are going to win with defense they need to invoke fear into their opponents. FREE ARRINGTON!!!

[saskin]

If Williams doesn't think Lavar can play, then thats fine by me. He knows him better than I. I think he'll progressively be worked in.

[hands11]

Originally Posted by Redskins88

That we did....too many poor calls. And that safety was a safety!

I was a little rusty on the tuck rule so I did a little reading.

Its intention is to have the call be incomplete unless the QB is pulling the ball back into his body. The question is, how do you define that. It's not clear.

But in this case, it was. Plummer actually got his loose hand on the ball. He had completed his throwing motion, the ball was in his throwing hand and coming down by his mid section when it got close enough to his body for him to touch it with his off hand. He was tring to get both hands on it but it slipped through both hands and went backward. So it a fumble.

If its not that, then he actually throw the ball backward, again, making it a live ball.

This was indeed a terrible call. Even Denver reacted like it was a fumble.

So that's 2 points and I believe, we get the ball back with a ton of momentum.

3 pts on the penalty on the FG. 3 Pts on the blocked FG.
The Patton penalty didnt matter, we score a TD later anyway.

As mentioned we didnt have our starting corners and we are still sitting an all pro on the bench.

We are making progress every game. Remember how bad this offense was. We keep adding something every game. We should have won this one.
We are going to have a nice season.

I was pro Brunell as early as the 2nd preseason game. Now I don't think anyone could even imagine Ramsey in there. Seeing Brunell do all the thing a QB needs to do kind of points out how far Ramsey really need to progress before he could play. Honestly, at this point, I dont think he is a pro QB. You have to be able to move better then he does and make decissions quicker and better, plus he has no arc on his ball to make the passes that need to be made. We better hope Brunell stay healthy this year and next because it's going to be hard to replace him with someone how knows all that he knows and can do all that he does.

Ramsey is good for crossing patterns in the middle and outs, where your in the pocket and you have to gun it on a line. That's not going to get it done in the NFL, so I think he is done. He is a Jay Shreider (sp). Jay was a baseball palyer turned QB. Ramsey is a javelin thrower turned QB. There is a lot more to it then a strong arm. Now that you see Brunell doing so many things, the difference seems night and day between the two.

[hands11]

Originally Posted by Daseal

The only thing I dislike with the offense thus far is our goal line packages for rushing, they simply don't seem to work. We need to find SOME way to punch it in, we're playing much better than I expected this year though, I don't feel as if we can complain TOO much.

We still have problems run blocking. If you have the game tapes, watch the line. Dockery is a lot better pass blocker. He actually kind of suck run blocking.

The middle. all 3 of then havent been good at run blocking.

Also, Portis doenst do well following blocks. He misses a lot. Actually on the one run he ended up at the 2, that was an easy TD if he just following the block and took the last 3 yard to the left. It was wide open. Instead he kind of ran over the blocker and leaped. I dont understand. Hes supposed to be a lot better then that. It was an easy move to make.

[aprius]

Originally Posted by Redskins88

If Williams doesn't think Lavar can play, then thats fine by me. He knows him better than I. I think he'll progressively be worked in.

BullDinky! He is mad at LaVar and is taking retribution out on him by not letting him start or play so that he cant make some incentive clauses in his contract. It is total BS. I dont think you can stop LA from getting in the lineup when you consider how bad Holdman is and how great LA is but GW finds a way every game.

[hands11]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Yep. Thats our first loss when Portis went over 100 yards. He had 20 for 103.

And the first back we allowed over a 100 in 8 games. I can believe it was T Bell. I had him on my FF team but dumped him because he wasnt doing anything.

[hands11]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

it feels like portis is catching more balls too. I felt during the game that portis had atleast 3 or 4 catches but then i saw it was only 2. We should let him catch more

And we finally quick picked it to him. Thats the play I was saying he should have scored on. I think he is over anxious at this point. A play he liked. Near the goal line, so he hurried it. He could have walking in if he just broke left.

[hands11]

Originally Posted by bertoskins

this will only mean one thing
we should start winning like the colts do
a 10 to 15 pont margin

so that any tuck rule will not cost us any game
and this can be attainable
by the way tha brunnel and the offense plays


just give us few more weeks
and we will put points in the board
as well as shut down opposing teams


go skins

You know what? With the offense coming so far so fast and still having a lot of room to grow, we could be good enough to consider doing the big dance.

We need to get our kicking game worked out. This punting and kicking not being worked out year after year is getting old.

Also, we dont do anything scary on returns. Im kind of amazed considering we have Betts, Moss, and Thrash doing return. We need to break more yards off.

Run blocking has to get better by the inner 3 lineline. Add LaVar and get our corners back. We added Patton today. Cooley is becoming a regular.

We have a nice team. Gibbs will grow this thing. I noticed to for the first time, I was just relaxed watching the game. It felt like a Gibbs team.