Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013

[skinsfaninok]

Well also the fact that Roy helu isn't Reggie bush lol.

[MTK]

As of a few weeks ago Helu wasn't even back to running yet. His health issues are a genuine concern.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Qadry Ismail on NFLN reported that the Ravens cut Bernard Pollard and that he was paid $2 mil. last year. IMO we can afford that. Pollard would look good in the maroon and black.

Bernard Pollard? Now there is a hitter! The anti-DHall. Pollard will lay people out! I love that kind of DB, even though Goodell is trying to drive them to extinction in the NFL.

BTW, there's no need to pick on Jim Zorn. He corrected that "maroon and black" gaffe - to "maroon, black, and yellow".

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

As of a few weeks ago Helu wasn't even back to running yet. His health issues are a genuine concern.

I smell a cap space oppurtunity.

[SOUL-SKINS]

When Vinny Cerrato was GM the month of March was exciting .... with Bruce Allen at GM the months of Dec / Jan will be exciting for years to come.

[NC_Skins]

I wouldn't expect any big name guy. (Talib mostly) I thought this tweet was pretty funny and accurate.



HTTR24-7.com ‏@HTTR24_7

If Eric Schaffer can fit Talib into the current cap then he needs to start a ponzi scheme..

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

When Vinny Cerrato was GM the month of March was exciting .... with Bruce Allen at GM the months of Dec / Jan will be exciting for years to come.

I Agree with that. Finally making the right moves in march and April to win in December/January and maybe one day in February. Let Miami win right now, just like Tampa bay last year... How did it end up for Tampa bay?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I smell a cap space oppurtunity.

Cutting him only frees up about $438k

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I wouldn't expect any big name guy. (Talib mostly) I thought this tweet was pretty funny and accurate.



HTTR24-7.com ‏@HTTR24_7

If Eric Schaffer can fit Talib into the current cap then he needs to start a ponzi scheme..

Ok so I'm not up on all the new rules but a co-worker said that the players bonus's don't count against the CAP?

So if that is true then we could offer both Talib and the CB from Miami, Smith, a 1 yr huge signing bonus and both a 1 mill contract each, then next year give them a nice contract over a few yrs. We could get both maybe?

Yes? No?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Wouldn't you also be grooming Hall as your safety?

Hall's skill set measures out pretty strong at safety i.e. he'll immediately be an upgrade over Williams. Williams has minimal ball-hawk intuition, Hall is way above average in that regard. Hall can be tough as nails when he wants to be, and just as importantly has a high football IQ to sniff out plays. Obviously that's partly why he's a ball hawk, and the move to safety will maximize his skill set.

It's the smart move for the Skins IMO. Irresponsible to count on a 2nd/3rd round draft pick to have the football IQ to play FS well. We can look at other FAs, but they're either gonna command more than Hall or be one year stop gaps. And, again our defense is unique. Hall knows it inside and out.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I smell a cap space oppurtunity.

According to the cap info here, Helu is set to make $673,000 this year. If we released him, we'd take a $235,000 hit, so we'd ultimately end up saving $438,000.

That said, we have to think about who'd we replace him with. If we replaced him with a rookie, it would cost, at minimum, $405,000. Minimum for a 3 year veteran would be $630,000. Ultimately, cutting/replacing helu would result in minimal savings or actually be more expensive. The ideal solution would be for Helu to come back healthy and do what we drafted him to do.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

When Vinny Cerrato was GM the month of March was exciting .... with Bruce Allen at GM the months of Dec / Jan will be exciting for years to come.

Actually this has been from a NFL stand point a boring FA Class; not just the Redskins.

[That Guy]

the signing bonus is spread out evenly over the years of the contract. incentives count either the year they are enacted or the year after (depending on the type) and roster bonuses count in full the year they're enacted.

so the current restructures probably involved unlikely to be earned incentives (which count against next year if reached). if moss caught 27 balls this year, the incentive could be to catch 28 next year and it'd be unlikely i believe.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ok so I'm not up on all the new rules but a co-worker said that the players bonus's don't count against the CAP?

So if that is true then we could offer both Talib and the CB from Miami, Smith, a 1 yr huge signing bonus and both a 1 mill contract each, then next year give them a nice contract over a few yrs. We could get both maybe?

Yes? No?

All paid bonuses count against the cap. Signing bonuses are prorated over the life of the contract.

Performance bonuses are paid either this year or next based on how easy they are to obtain. A bonus of 1 mil for playing a single game, the NFL will count that this year since its considered easily obtainable. A bonus of 1 mil for having 10 TD's for a RB or WR will count next year if they reach that incentive this year.

Every bonus paid out counts against the cap somehow.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by That Guy

the signing bonus is spread out evenly over the years of the contract. incentives count either the year they are enacted or the year after (depending on the type) and roster bonuses count in full the year they're enacted.

so the current restructures probably involved unlikely to be earned incentives (which count against next year if reached). if moss caught 27 balls this year, the incentive could be to catch 28 next year and it'd be unlikely i believe.

I see. I thought bonus $ counted against the CAP. My idiot friend apparently does not.