How bad is our defense?

MTK · 10-08-2006, 09:43 PM

Still too early to panic about Rogers.

illdefined · 10-08-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Still too early to panic about Rogers.

at what point is it safe to panic? he's been struggling at no.2 corner, and we have a johnny-come-lately Kenny Wright as our no.1. the results have been nothing but apparent.

Pocket$ $traight · 10-08-2006, 11:01 PM

They are mediocre at best but you aren't going to win when you scored 3 points.

The worst was watching Lavar. He tips one pass and you would have thought he took over the game like LT. He is a shell of his former self.

NYCSkin · 10-08-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

at what point is it safe to panic? he's been struggling at no.2 corner, and we have a johnny-come-lately Kenny Wright as our no.1. the results have been nothing but apparent.

Agree Rogers has me very worried. Two years in this system and he still takes bad angles at the line, is too soft in man to man, and has poor hands. This is his opportunity to step up with Springs out and I haven't seen anything that makes me think he will be anything more than a nickel back. He does dances well though when burned (and the receiver drops the ball).

MTK · 10-08-2006, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

at what point is it safe to panic? he's been struggling at no.2 corner, and we have a johnny-come-lately Kenny Wright as our no.1. the results have been nothing but apparent.

Gotta at least give him the rest of the season.

illdefined · 10-08-2006, 11:14 PM

3 seasons is pretty generous for a 1st round pick dontcha think?

he should still be developing as a no.1 corner, not a no. 2.

mooby · 10-08-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

3 seasons is pretty generous for a 1st round pick dontcha think?

he should still be developing as a no.1 corner, not a no. 2.

He's only in his second season. Give him some time.

70Chip · 10-08-2006, 11:28 PM

I think Matty is right. We should be patient. (What else can we do?) The thing that has me concerned is not Rogers or any other individual, but rather the yo-yo nature of the whole team. They are entirely unpredictable. It seems like they play hard one week so they can coast the next without things getting too ugly. It's textbook under-achievement. Just get by. I'm thinking more of the offense now, because I think the defense is actually doing the best they can.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-08-2006, 11:28 PM

Rogers could turn out to be a beast, but for the 9th overall pick he has the makings of a bust. Would anyone else like to go back in a time machine and snag Merriman and have used our 2nd rounder on Jimmy Williams? Shoulda, coulda, woulda.....I know.

Pocket$ $traight · 10-08-2006, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Rogers could turn out to be a beast, but for the 9th overall pick he has the makings of a bust. Would anyone else like to go back in a time machine and snag Merriman and have used our 2nd rounder on Jimmy Williams? Shoulda, coulda, woulda.....I know.

This is a no-brainer right now. If I see Rogers drop another interception that could turn the game, I am going to puke.

VTSkins897 · 10-08-2006, 11:37 PM

d has really been hugge disappointment this year so far. i mean i know we only put up three points, but it definitely "felt" like the D was far worse. i expect low scores in a division game.

it seems now i'd rather have them in 3rd and 1 over 3rd and 18. that way maybe we can luck out and stuff the run.

as far as playoffs. i see us as having to go 9-2 or better, especially considering that if we beat tennessee next week, we'll be 3-3 but with zero wins against the nfc. last year were 10-2 vs. nfc (right?). that's a damn good conference record. without the good nfc record to break some ties, i don't see 10-6 getting us in.

it's too early to say exactly but that's my guess.

NYCSkin · 10-08-2006, 11:38 PM

Williams should have Rogers shag a couple hundred balls this week. And get him Lester Hayes' contact info.

MTK · 10-08-2006, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

3 seasons is pretty generous for a 1st round pick dontcha think?

he should still be developing as a no.1 corner, not a no. 2.

Today was his 17th start, just a hair over 1 complete season.

Pocket$ $traight · 10-08-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Today was his 17th start, just a hair over 1 complete season.

Who cares. A top ten corner should catch one out of three balls that hit him in the hands.

See Seattle....
See Dallas.....
See New Jersey...

Why couldn't Rolle have fallen to us...
Hell, I would take that idiot, Pac-man. At least he can catch.

MTK · 10-08-2006, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Who cares. A top ten corner should catch one out of three balls that hit him in the hands.

See Seattle....
See Dallas.....
See New Jersey...

Why couldn't Rolle have fallen to us...
Hell, I would take that idiot, Pac-man. At least he can catch.

I agree he needs to make plays like that, but what else can we do?? Cut him after one year?

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70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: How bad is our defense? I think Matty is right. We should be patient. (What else can we do?) The thing that has me concerned is not Rogers or any other individual, but rather the yo-yo nature of the whole team. They are entirely unpredictable. It seems like they play hard one week so they can coast the next without things getting too ugly. It's textbook under-achievement. Just get by. I'm thinking more of the offense now, because I think the defense is actually doing the best they can. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

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10-08-2006, 11:37 PM	#56
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 890	Re: How bad is our defense? d has really been hugge disappointment this year so far. i mean i know we only put up three points, but it definitely "felt" like the D was far worse. i expect low scores in a division game. it seems now i'd rather have them in 3rd and 1 over 3rd and 18. that way maybe we can luck out and stuff the run. as far as playoffs. i see us as having to go 9-2 or better, especially considering that if we beat tennessee next week, we'll be 3-3 but with zero wins against the nfc. last year were 10-2 vs. nfc (right?). that's a damn good conference record. without the good nfc record to break some ties, i don't see 10-6 getting us in. it's too early to say exactly but that's my guess.

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