NFL Live: Dre Bly Rumors

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Michael Smith on NFL Live just got finished saying he's pretty sure Dre Bly is gonna end up a Redskin. Apparently we are gonna look to bring back Smoot at a big discount if the Vikings release him as well. I guess Springs doesn't want to restructure, and he's NEVER healthy, so I wouldn't care if we cut him. I think we could get Smoot and Bly for combined what we'd cough up for Nate Clements. I'd rather have the extra bodies than the overpriced star, especially if Springs leaves...

And apparently Nate Clements is looking for a contract with between $20-25 million guaranteed. We just can't go out and spend like that again. We need depth at too many positions to blow our wad on one guy.

Smoot and Bly? It's got to be better than Wright and Rumph ... I guess. Still, is that the equivalent of duck taping the Titanic?

$20-25 million for Clements is absurd if true. Wouldn't that be more than Champ Bailey type money?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Smoot and Bly? It's got to be better than Wright and Rumph ... I guess. Still, is that the equivalent of duck taping the Titanic?

$20-25 million for Clements is absurd if true. Wouldn't that be more than Champ Bailey type money?

That would be Champ Bailey type money. And apparently that's what he's looking for. I guess San Fran is really looking to upgrade their defense, and they have a ton of money to spend. From what I read, they will be the front runner for Clements when the market opens.

And yes, I think Smoot and Bly would be duct taping the titantic. But you've got to think, both players are under 30, and Smoot knows our system, staff, and the city. He'd fit right back in, and we'd get him for a fraction of what Minnesota paid for him. A rotation of Bly, Smoot, and Carlos could be pretty good. Better than Wright and Rumph for sure!! And I don't think bringing in Nate Clements would immediately right the ship either. Sure he's great, but we need so much on D, I think spreading the money around on decent players is a much smarter move than blowing it all on Clements.

[Smurf85]

I would be happy with this move,but if we get Bly.We have to get another corner.Bly also has had health problems.So Bly and Smoot would be great add a d-line guy in the draft.Man that sounds good to me.

[Smurf85]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Smoot and Bly? It's got to be better than Wright and Rumph ... I guess. Still, is that the equivalent of duck taping the Titanic?

$20-25 million for Clements is absurd if true. Wouldn't that be more than Champ Bailey type money?

Yes that is Champ money and from what i hear.Thats what kind of money he's going to get.I don't think we have a chance to sign him.

[diehardskin2982]

I would take Bly and Smoot over Clements in a heart beat... Bly in the past has been regarded as the 2nd best corner in the league. but I hope this doesn't involve the Portis-bly trade

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I would take Bly and Smoot over Clements in a heart beat... Bly in the past has been regarded as the 2nd best corner in the league. but I hope this doesn't involve the Portis-bly trade

Smoot/Bly could definitely happen, but there are some "IF's" that need to go our way. According to the Wash Post, many in our organization would be "open to bringing Smoot back" if he is released by the Vikes this week (which apparently is more likely to happen than not). The other "IF" is IF Bly, who has been given permission from Detroit to seek a trade, looks to come to DC, what will Detroit want from us? We don't have any depth on defense to give away, and we sure don't have any draft picks to part with (not this year anyway). I really don't want to give them Portis. If we do, we need to get a high draft pick in addition to Bly.

The other possibility is we move Springs to safety to play next to Taylor (provided Springs' restructures, and talks aren't going well). If we could bring in Smoot and/or Bly, that would be a pretty solid secondary...

[redskinsfanatic]

ESPN nfl live said that the redskins were pursuing a trade with detroit for dre bly.anybody heard anything about that?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by redskinsfanatic

ESPN nfl live said that the redskins were pursuing a trade with detroit for dre bly.anybody heard anything about that?

I just read that John Clayton is doubtful that Matt Millen can turn Dre Bly into anything other than a middle round pick. That's music to my ears!!! I'd give up a 3rd or 4th round pick for a player who is top 5 at his position, under 30 years old, and fills a pressing need. I hope Clayton is right.

[Smurf85]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I just read that John Clayton is doubtful that Matt Millen can turn Dre Bly into anything other than a middle round pick. That's music to my ears!!! I'd give up a 3rd or 4th round pick for a player who is top 5 at his position, under 30 years old, and fills a pressing need. I hope Clayton is right.

There's one big problem with this.We don't have a 3rd or a 4th.So you think Detroit is going to go for our 3rd or 4th next year?I am willing to bet they want a pick this year.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Smurf85

There's one big problem with this.We don't have a 3rd or a 4th.So you think Detroit is going to go for our 3rd or 4th next year?I am willing to bet they want a pick this year.

I pray he goes to Denver. If the Lions want a 3rd this year (which we don't have), we'll have to give up next year's 2nd. If the Lions want a 4th this year (which we don't have), we'll have to give up next year's 3rd.

Moreover, Bly will be 30 before the season starts.

[GMScud]

So my best friend is a Jets fan, and he belongs to the GangGreen Message board (pretty much the Jets equivalent of the Warpath, but nowhere near as good :-)). He said there is talk all over the place of Portis and #6 pick to the Jets for Vilma and the #25 pick. And we all know our history of doing business with the Jets. What about this deal? I could do it.. Vilma is the best young middle linebacker in football. And with the 25th pick we could possibly get DE like Jarvis Moss from Florida or Anthony Spencer from Purdue. Then just resign Duckett and start Betts?? This might be worth a seperate thread...

I moved to Florida from DC 7 years ago (I'm moving back this July thank God), and I don't have the benefit of any Redskins radio. I heard Adalius Thomas is very high on our radar as well?? Can anyone confirm?

[holcknowsbest]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Agreed that Portis IS a Gibbs back, that's whay JG made the trade for him.
But you're wrong about zone blocking; the Skins didn't employ any until midseason 06. There was an article in the Wash. Post about it & I remember discussing it here. Bugel was resistant to it but Saunders likes it.
The beneficiary of zone blocking was Betts, he had some huge holes to hit. Wait till we see Portis hit those kind of holes!! Cross your fingers that we re sign Dock!

at least we are close to the same page freddy...but they did run zone blocking in 05, ill take you to the bank on that. when you hear the term stretch runs which is what they went to in 05 that is just a way of saying zone blocking...bugges did resist at first but they found that clinton was not patient enough to run thier man on man counter treys so they went to the zone blocking schemes he excelled in denver, 1 cut and go.

enough of that topic, all this talk at corner, which i agree we need help with but safety is a huge concern. i say keep springs because he really has played great when healthy. dre bly would be a hell of a pick up at the right price. thier are also some good corners in this draft like chris houston. i wouldnt mind that draft day deal with the jets that everyone is hyping and getting vilma and then at number 25 getting chris houston. i would personally go for a safety in free agency unless you canget laron landry from lsu after trading back to get more picks. some free agent safeties might me dwight smith from minn or ken hamlin from seattle.

[holcknowsbest]

i only go through with the deal with the jets if it is ladell betts not portis who we are trading.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by GMScud

So my best friend is a Jets fan, and he belongs to the GangGreen Message board (pretty much the Jets equivalent of the Warpath, but nowhere near as good :-)). He said there is talk all over the place of Portis and #6 pick to the Jets for Vilma and the #25 pick. And we all know our history of doing business with the Jets. What about this deal? I could do it.. Vilma is the best young middle linebacker in football. And with the 25th pick we could possibly get DE like Jarvis Moss from Florida or Anthony Spencer from Purdue. Then just resign Duckett and start Betts?? This might be worth a seperate thread...

I moved to Florida from DC 7 years ago (I'm moving back this July thank God), and I don't have the benefit of any Redskins radio. I heard Adalius Thomas is very high on our radar as well?? Can anyone confirm?

Portis for Vilma MAYBE, but if they want Portis and the Skins to move down 19 picks in the first round they're on crack! That's a horrible trade. That better be Portis and the 6 for Vilma, the #25 and their 2nd and maybe 4th/5th round picks. That would be a horrible deal for the Skins. If that happens my fan card might get turned in!

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Portis for Vilma MAYBE, but if they want Portis and the Skins to move down 19 picks in the first round they're on crack! That's a horrible trade. That better be Portis and the 6 for Vilma, the #25 and their 2nd and maybe 4th/5th round picks. That would be a horrible deal for the Skins. If that happens my fan card might get turned in!

I agree. They'd have to sweeten the pot with another decent pick or two. But Vilma is only 24, and has proven he's a great leader, he has played with several Redskins at the U, and he's a tackling machine. He can be a perennial candidate for defensive MVP. I believe he is the next great middle linebacker in the NFL. Portis is the man and all, but draft picks aside, I'd rather have a Vilma than CP 1 for 1. Especially with Betts already resigned for a much smaller contract than Portis has. Plus we have the ability to bring Duckett back as well should Portis leave.