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Old 02-19-2010, 02:38 PM   #1
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That is my fear with p90x you do all that work then what? No one could live that lifestyle for very long. It is not a realistic for life program.
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That is my fear with p90x you do all that work then what? No one could live that lifestyle for very long. It is not a realistic for life program.
Weight loss and/or muscle building itself is more about diet then anything else, thats where people really need to make lifestyle changes. Aside from actual experience I can tell you that in looking at the numbers your best chance to loose weight is through eating right unless you're one of those people that can't gain weight no matter what in which case you need to start scoffing down pizzas and the like (dead serious) if you want to gain size.

You can't out work a big mac or a regular 400 calorie meal for the most part, I mean you could but it'd be hard to just burn 400 or 500 calories a day on exercise. It's much easier to just not eat 400 calories.

Also you need to eat the right kinds of foods. Eating foods with low GI ratings will assure that you get the nutrients you need on a calorie deficit and burn more calories due to the extra effort in digestion. Protein is really important to for keeping on muscle mass.

I think that the one thing people don't under stand is that exercises main attribute is NOT weight loss. Exercise does other things for you like improve endurance, sense of well being, muscle tone, heart health, and athletic performance. However for the most part it's far fetched to expect exercise to significantly contribute to weight loss, at least to the extent that eating right will help you. Probably the best thing you can do for yourself exercise wise is build muscle to prevent your metabolism from dropping to much on a calorie deficit. Also running for heart health isn't a bad idea either.

In terms of weight loss through exercise becomes much more important when you're getting near the single digits in terms of body fat and every calorie in and out truly starts to count.

In the end you have to think of it this way. The diet is the jackhammer, thats going to get rid of most of the fat (or build muscle if thats your goal). A program like P90X (which actually seems like a pretty good program) is more like a scalpel in that it will build muscle and sculpt your body so when you do loose the desired amount of fat you'll look better as opposed to just starving yourself (which you should never do by the way).

Sorry for the rant it's just that I kind of feel like this needed to be said.

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I've been using kettlebells for a few months now and I definitely recommend them. Killer workout, really improves your core strength and fast too.
I personally love kettlebells as a cardio hybrid. Much more fun and quicker then running on a treadmill for hours on end. On top of that it not only spares muscle but brings with it the potential to increase it.

They're probably pretty amazing to from an athletic perspective but I'm no longer an athlete. Wish I knew about them though when I was playing football.

Right now I workout with them in 5 minute increments with 40 seconds of work and 20 seconds of rest. Two sets of snatches (one left one right), one set of pull throughs, and two sets of cleans (one left one right).

Actually I would recommend a $50 or $70 kettlebell (heavier kettlebells cost more) before paying the $120 for P90X. I think you could get amazing results with just a kettlebell by itself so long as you're eating right for your bodytype.
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:09 AM   #3
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Weight loss and/or muscle building itself is more about diet then anything else, thats where people really need to make lifestyle changes. Aside from actual experience I can tell you that in looking at the numbers your best chance to loose weight is through eating right unless you're one of those people that can't gain weight no matter what in which case you need to start scoffing down pizzas and the like (dead serious) if you want to gain size.

You can't out work a big mac or a regular 400 calorie meal for the most part, I mean you could but it'd be hard to just burn 400 or 500 calories a day on exercise. It's much easier to just not eat 400 calories.

Also you need to eat the right kinds of foods. Eating foods with low GI ratings will assure that you get the nutrients you need on a calorie deficit and burn more calories due to the extra effort in digestion. Protein is really important to for keeping on muscle mass.

I think that the one thing people don't under stand is that exercises main attribute is NOT weight loss. Exercise does other things for you like improve endurance, sense of well being, muscle tone, heart health, and athletic performance. However for the most part it's far fetched to expect exercise to significantly contribute to weight loss, at least to the extent that eating right will help you. Probably the best thing you can do for yourself exercise wise is build muscle to prevent your metabolism from dropping to much on a calorie deficit. Also running for heart health isn't a bad idea either.

In terms of weight loss through exercise becomes much more important when you're getting near the single digits in terms of body fat and every calorie in and out truly starts to count.

In the end you have to think of it this way. The diet is the jackhammer, thats going to get rid of most of the fat (or build muscle if thats your goal). A program like P90X (which actually seems like a pretty good program) is more like a scalpel in that it will build muscle and sculpt your body so when you do loose the desired amount of fat you'll look better as opposed to just starving yourself (which you should never do by the way).

Sorry for the rant it's just that I kind of feel like this needed to be said.



I personally love kettlebells as a cardio hybrid. Much more fun and quicker then running on a treadmill for hours on end. On top of that it not only spares muscle but brings with it the potential to increase it.

They're probably pretty amazing to from an athletic perspective but I'm no longer an athlete. Wish I knew about them though when I was playing football.

Right now I workout with them in 5 minute increments with 40 seconds of work and 20 seconds of rest. Two sets of snatches (one left one right), one set of pull throughs, and two sets of cleans (one left one right).

Actually I would recommend a $50 or $70 kettlebell (heavier kettlebells cost more) before paying the $120 for P90X. I think you could get amazing results with just a kettlebell by itself so long as you're eating right for your bodytype.

Hope you are not talking to me because I am well aware of diet and exercise I was simply saying P90x is not something I believe you could not keep up with for any extended period of time.
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Hope you are not talking to me because I am well aware of diet and exercise I was simply saying P90x is not something I believe you could not keep up with for any extended period of time.
Ha ha, no no. Your use of the word lifestyle inspired my segway. Nothing less, nothing more.
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Ha ha, no no. Your use of the word lifestyle inspired my segway. Nothing less, nothing more.

No worries I actually meant to come back here to apologize. I have had a tough morning of juggling work and my son's ear appointment but still found time to be an ass on here, LOL!
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It's not really meant to be a do this for the rest of your life program. It's a lot easier to maintain than to get it there. Plus you may come up with new goals by then.

It's the same as any other get in shape program, you can't do it and then ride it out, it's about a lifestyle change.
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They do have some maintenance programs and a lot of people will just go through the program over and over. You could of course dial it back to 3-4 days a week once you're at a level you want.
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This were I think Body for Life plays out better in long term fitness but to each is own.
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This were I think Body for Life plays out better in long term fitness but to each is own.
Yeah, different programs though.
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Old 02-19-2010, 03:47 PM   #10
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I can see how those straps would give you a killer workout. You're probably working all sorts of muscles just to stabilize yourself.
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Re: P90x

I've checked out P90X and Body For Life. Body for like is what I started using before I got serious with the weights. After a few months of weights P90X didn't seem like anything to me. We had the quarterdeck back in my day, and it made P90X look like strawberry shortcake.

I guess it would depend on what you're doing or what you want to get out of working out. P90X would be good for someone who regularly works out moderatly who wants to step it up.

I only watched one CD of it from my buddy. It seemed kind of boring really.
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:04 PM   #12
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I can see how those straps would give you a killer workout. You're probably working all sorts of muscles just to stabilize yourself.
My shoulders , and the area where your chest and shoulders tie in , were sore for a damn week the first couple of times I used them . Very effective included with a sound routine , I think I'am going to buy a set of kettlebells this summer .
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My shoulders , and the area where your chest and shoulders tie in , were sore for a damn week the first couple of times I used them . Very effective included with a sound routine , I think I'am going to buy a set of kettlebells this summer .
I've been using kettlebells for a few months now and I definitely recommend them. Killer workout, really improves your core strength and fast too.
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I've been using kettlebells for a few months now and I definitely recommend them. Killer workout, really improves your core strength and fast too.

Just to be clear I was reading your workout blog during the down time, yo uare using power 90 not P90x which are two diffrent programs, correct?
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Yeah I'm doing Power 90
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