Mmmmmm, chicken McNuggets

[hooskins]

Haha the stories on that article are hilarious. A fast food emergency 911 call. Awesome.

[tryfuhl]

If you're burning 2000 cals a day that makes sense.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

If you're burning 2000 cals a day that makes sense.

Yeah but that's a variable. You can't just apply that to every person's situation. My whole point with that statement is it's just generalized and isn't something that can be applied to every person's situation. If you sit in an office all day and type on a computer you're probably not burning much. Same as driving a vehicle around all day, you prob don't burn much if at all.

[MTK]

Kind of a flawed argument to just compare calories. The mcnuggets are processed garbage. I would bet the chemicals and preservatives would be far more harmful to your overall health vs someone eating more organic food.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Kind of a flawed argument to just compare calories. The mcnuggets are processed garbage. I would bet the chemicals and preservatives would be far more harmful to your overall health vs someone eating more organic food.

So true. you just have to watch Super Size Me to see the affects of eating that garbage every day.

On Friday I was in rush on my lunch hour because my hair cut took to long, I buckled and bought a McChicken small fry and a cheeseburger. I made it through the fries and chicken sandwich and one bite of the cheeseburger I seriously felt like complete crap the rest of the day and I am no health buff.

I always say McDonald's is the world's High School cafeteria. They both have the same quality of food, awful!

[mlmpetert]

Im only saying 2k calories because I think that’s the average recommended amount. Now if youre a disciple of Tony Horton and do the whole p90 series for a year plus straight like Matty (pics coming out soon?) then consuming more than 2k calories a day is probably much needed. But the average person only needs 2k calories, give or take.

My thought is America’s number 1 food health issue, by far, isn’t the quality of the food we consume, it’s the quantity of food we consume. A lot of fat people make a big deal about lower quality processed foods, while ignoring the much bigger issue.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Im only saying 2k calories because I think that’s the average recommended amount. Now if youre a disciple of Tony Horton and do the whole p90 series for a year plus straight like Matty (pics coming out soon?) then consuming more than 2k calories a day is probably much needed. But the average person only needs 2k calories, give or take.

My thought is America’s number 1 food health issue, by far, isn’t the quality of the food we consume, it’s the quantity of food we consume. A lot of fat people make a big deal about lower quality processed foods, while ignoring the much bigger issue.

The problem is if you eat 2k calories in crappy food you are going to end up eating more calories somewhere in the day because your body will still be hungry for the nutrients it needs.

I rather eat 3k calories of a high fiber low fat diet then any McDonald's 2k calories a day diet.

I mean the scum that lines the bathroom floor of a public restroom probably has some calorie count. You can't tell me if I only licked up a 1k calories worth of bathroom scum everyday that I would be healthy.

Yes I understand portion control is a big part of it but so is the quality of that portion of food. Your body will store or burn high fructose corn syrup much differently then it will say spinach. If you start off with a healthy portion of food you are less apt to go back for more becasue your body has a better sense of fullness.

Also you can get fat off organic foods they just simple are less "processed". You can not eat organic chocolate bars all day and think you will be skinny. You have only limited the amount of pesticides or whatever they treat non-organic coco beans with. Organic doesn't mean less calories or fat.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by mredskins

The problem is if you eat 2k calories in crappy food you are going to end up eating more calories somewhere in the day because your body will still be hungry for the nutrients it needs.

I rather eat 3k calories of a high fiber low fat diet then any McDonald's 2k calories a day diet.

I mean the scum that lines the bathroom floor of a public restroom probably has some calorie count. You can't tell me if I only licked up a 1k calories worth of bathroom scum everyday that I would be healthy.

Yes I understand portion control is a big part of it but so is the quality of that portion of food. Your body will store or burn high fructose corn syrup much differently then it will say spinach. If you start off with a healthy portion of food you are less apt to go back for more becasue your body has a better sense of fullness.

Also you can get fat off organic foods they just simple are less "processed". You can not eat organic chocolate bars all day and think you will be skinny. You have only limited the amount of pesticides or whatever they treat non-organic coco beans with. Organic doesn't mean less calories or fat.

So I would call this self control. Is it that youre really hungry, or is that you know for 5 dollars you can get a really quick satisfying meal without even having to get out of your car. Sure maybe eating really healthy organic foods may fill you up for a little longer, but I think its more of a convence factor then anything else.

You may rather eat 3k of hi fiber, low fat food then 2k of McDonalds, but im betting your gonna end up fatter and with more health problems then the guy who choices the lesser calorie offering. Bathroom scum vs. FDA approved food is a little different.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by mredskins

So true. you just have to watch Super Size Me to see the affects of eating that garbage every day.

On Friday I was in rush on my lunch hour because my hair cut took to long, I buckled and bought a McChicken small fry and a cheeseburger. I made it through the fries and chicken sandwich and one bite of the cheeseburger I seriously felt like complete crap the rest of the day and I am no health buff.

I always say McDonald's is the world's High School cafeteria. They both have the same quality of food, awful!

Did you actually watch the movie? At least read the summary of what he did. The guy ate a LOT more then 2k calories a day, I think around 5k a day. It was called Supersize me in part because McDonalds used to asked would you like to Supersize youre order. If/when (like 90% of the time) they asked if he would like to get his order supersized then he had to accept. Back then asking if you want your order supersized was like asking if you would like a drink to go with your order.

Maybe eating McDonalds every day isn’t great for you, but I don’t really think its bad either as long as you eat only your recommended caloric intake (most people 2k) and mix up the menu a little bit (Big Mac one day, McNuggets another). For the average person that gets the average amount of exercise I can assure you that eating 5k calories a day of organic foods is gonna be bad for you, even with a shot of wheat grass on the side. And eating that much food is probably going to result in the exact same health issues the guy in Supersize Me experienced.

Again I don’t think Americans really have a quality of food problem. However we definitely have a quantity of food epidemic.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Did you actually watch the movie? At least read the summary of what he did. The guy ate a LOT more then 2k calories a day, I think around 5k a day. It was called Supersize me in part because McDonalds used to asked would you like to Supersize youre order. If/when (like 90% of the time) they asked if he would like to get his order supersized then he had to accept. Back then asking if you want your order supersized was like asking if you would like a drink to go with your order.

Maybe eating McDonalds every day isn’t great for you, but I don’t really think its bad either as long as you eat only your recommended caloric intake (most people 2k) and mix up the menu a little bit (Big Mac one day, McNuggets another). For the average person that gets the average amount of exercise I can assure you that eating 5k calories a day of organic foods is gonna be bad for you, even with a shot of wheat grass on the side. And eating that much food is probably going to result in the exact same health issues the guy in Supersize Me experienced.

Again I don’t think Americans really have a quality of food problem. However we definitely have a quantity of food epidemic.

I am not going to argue with you if you want to eat it, go ahead enjoy it, and I did see the doc.

Watch this doc and you may have a new view on your McDonald's menu.

Official Food, Inc. Movie Site - Hungry For Change?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Did you actually watch the movie? At least read the summary of what he did. The guy ate a LOT more then 2k calories a day, I think around 5k a day. It was called Supersize me in part because McDonalds used to asked would you like to Supersize youre order. If/when (like 90% of the time) they asked if he would like to get his order supersized then he had to accept. Back then asking if you want your order supersized was like asking if you would like a drink to go with your order.

Maybe eating McDonalds every day isn’t great for you, but I don’t really think its bad either as long as you eat only your recommended caloric intake (most people 2k) and mix up the menu a little bit (Big Mac one day, McNuggets another). For the average person that gets the average amount of exercise I can assure you that eating 5k calories a day of organic foods is gonna be bad for you, even with a shot of wheat grass on the side. And eating that much food is probably going to result in the exact same health issues the guy in Supersize Me experienced.

Again I don’t think Americans really have a quality of food problem. However we definitely have a quantity of food epidemic.

If you are going to spew facts make sure they are correct please.

On March 2, Spurlock makes it to day 30 and achieves his goal. In thirty days, he "Supersized" his meals nine times along the way (five of which were in Texas, three in New York City). His doctors are surprised at the degree of deterioration in Spurlock's health. He notes that he has eaten as many McDonald's meals as most nutritionists say the ordinary person should eat in 8 years (he ate 90 meals, which is close to 8 years of eating it once a month).

9/90 = 10% of the time far cry from your 90%.

Super Size Me - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess I should ask did you see the movie or are you just making up facts to support your idea that a health America need only eat 2k calories a day of McDonalds.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by mredskins

If you are going to spew facts make sure they are correct please.

On March 2, Spurlock makes it to day 30 and achieves his goal. In thirty days, he "Supersized" his meals nine times along the way (five of which were in Texas, three in New York City). His doctors are surprised at the degree of deterioration in Spurlock's health. He notes that he has eaten as many McDonald's meals as most nutritionists say the ordinary person should eat in 8 years (he ate 90 meals, which is close to 8 years of eating it once a month).

9/90 = 10% of the time far cry from your 90%.

Super Size Me - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess I should ask did you see the movie or are you just making up facts to support your idea that a health America need only eat 2k calories a day of McDonalds.

I watched it, but it was a while ago. I was right about the 5k calories a day though. Which is what im saying is the problem. Again quantity is the problem not quality

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Did you actually watch the movie? At least read the summary of what he did. The guy ate a LOT more then 2k calories a day, I think around 5k a day. It was called Supersize me in part because McDonalds used to asked would you like to Supersize youre order. If/when (like 90% of the time) they asked if he would like to get his order supersized then he had to accept. Back then asking if you want your order supersized was like asking if you would like a drink to go with your order.

Maybe eating McDonalds every day isn’t great for you, but I don’t really think its bad either as long as you eat only your recommended caloric intake (most people 2k) and mix up the menu a little bit (Big Mac one day, McNuggets another). For the average person that gets the average amount of exercise I can assure you that eating 5k calories a day of organic foods is gonna be bad for you, even with a shot of wheat grass on the side. And eating that much food is probably going to result in the exact same health issues the guy in Supersize Me experienced.

Again I don’t think Americans really have a quality of food problem. However we definitely have a quantity of food epidemic.

There is a lot of research showing that types of food are as important as calories. The calories in/out is too simplistic of a model. It is the biggest fault in the guidance provided by the medical community. It ignores completely the causation of caloric over-consumption which isn't attributed as much to being sedentary as it is to what we eat. In fact much of this new research shows that our increasing sedentary life styles are more attributed to over consumption of carbohydrates which train our bodies to conserve energy and slow our metabolisms. So us getting fat is really about eating too much carbs. The medical community is starting to accept this. It is sort of unfortunate but the guy everyone called a quack (Dr Atkins) actually got a lot right. He just over did it.

[mredskins]

mlmpetert, in all fairness I do see where Morgon keeps saying he ate 5k calories a day of McDonalds, following his rule of super sizing I don't know how he got there. Unless he was ordering more sides like a milkshake or a dessert which is not in the meals.

In the end though I still believe if you eat more calories of high quality food vs. less calories of low quality of food your overall health will be better. Yes if I agree if I only ate one McDonald's .25 ponder a day (510 calories) over time I would lose weight but will I be healthier? I don't think so.

[MTK]

Yeah quantity is an issue, but so is quality. Our food in general is too full of sodium, sugar, and preservatives.

A 2000 cal diet full of cookies and cakes isn't going to be as nutritious or healthy as a 2000 cal diet made up of organic lean proteins and veggies.

Garbage in, garbage out.