One thing will never change.

LongTimeSkinsFan · 10-10-2005, 08:40 AM

I agree. We are improving in many areas, although special teams has many needs that have to be addressed. It WAS nice to see us pull off a punt block yesterday, but I seriously question Thrash on punt returns (it seems like 95% of the time he FCs), and Betts, while he is consistent, just doesn't have the speed to break a KO return.

As stupid as it sounds, I really walked away from that game feeling like we were playing against the Broncos and the refs. I've always found it interesting that Shanahan's teams have always had an 'unusual' relationship with the referees. I don't know if its because of his whiney, plaintive nature or if it's something else going on, but even when he was running Oakland, they always seemed to get a few more calls there way than the other guy in each game.

Finally, I found it highly amusing that yet another 'sports analyst' (this one from Foxsports) underplays the Redskins effort in a game that they were 'supposed to lose'.

'Ian Gold's break-up of a Mark Brunell pass on a potential game-tying, late fourth quarter, two-point conversion attempt was the clutch play of the weekend. The ball seemed destined to land in David Patten's paws until Gold suddenly appeared out of nowhere and made an athletic and heady play to break it up. The Broncos didn't play their best, and that's what makes the 21-19 win against a quality Redskins team one to savor.'

Hmmm, we'll just ignore the fact that Portis ran for over 100 yds, Brunell passed for over 300, and several questionable officiating calls had a bearing on the final outcome (especially the 'not-fumble', 'not-safety' play). I would like to know how the referees are reviewed with regards to their performance, if at all. I know that in baseball, umpires are 'graded' on their adjudication of the game and their review is directly tied to incentives and in some cases even their continued tenure.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-10-2005, 08:53 AM

If we can stop the stupid penalties, I feel VERY positive we can take it to Kansas City BAD next week. Their defense is MUCH worse than Denver's.

56FAN · 10-10-2005, 09:05 AM

This one stings becuse we had the game and let it slip away.we did compete and after all the ref's inconsistancies, we still could have won. why didn't springs play? we need to use lavar on passing downs, just like marvin used him. just watching this team fight to come out of the funk and morass that this team has been in for soo long is both inspiring and agonizing.but they are still my team.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-10-2005, 09:30 AM

The Gibbs-mentality is coming through I see. This team has been in every game down to the bitter end, win or lose.

redrock-skins · 10-10-2005, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't care who gets them or how, bottom line is we need more TDs period.

We racked up over 400 yards today and moved the ball at will at times, with that kind of yardage we should be putting up 30+ points.

Agreed. My grandfather told me a long time ago you can't put "we're moving the ball" on the scoreboard.

12thMan · 10-10-2005, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by monk81

I think the fact that Springs and Harris didn't play against the Broncos was a major factor.

Well, they were without Champ and have like three rookies in their secondary too. So in that regard, things were pretty even.

SmootSmack · 10-10-2005, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well, they were without Champ and have like three rookies in their secondary too. So in that regard, things were pretty even.

Speaking of those rookies, did you see the look that Mike Shanahan gave rookie CB Karl Paymah after his two boneheaded penalties on that last drive? Wow! Even I had to take a step back, that glare was that intense

12thMan · 10-10-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Our offense looks great, but will consistant bad calls from the officials against us ever stop? That safety would have won the game for us. #()*

I'm starting to have flashbacks of the Green Bay game from last year. How many bad games can they possibly call against us?

Today on one of the local networks Joe Gibbs was extremely animated when commenting about the officiating. I've never, ever seen him remotley close to being that upset about something.

The bad calls are really getting old though.

footballfan · 10-10-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Yep I agree! I always say that only losers complain about the refs....but in this case, there is no way possible that is an incomplete pass!

Time to move on to KC now Iam tired of hearing about the referees bad call It's done and over with

That Guy · 10-11-2005, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by footballfan

Time to move on to KC now Iam tired of hearing about the referees bad call It's done and over with

then don't read the threads...

skinsguy · 10-11-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

then don't read the threads...

Agreed!!!!

MTK · 10-11-2005, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Speaking of those rookies, did you see the look that Mike Shanahan gave rookie CB Karl Paymah after his two boneheaded penalties on that last drive? Wow! Even I had to take a step back, that glare was that intense

What really scares me is that crazy eye he has!

SKINSnCANES · 10-11-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What really scares me is that crazy eye he has!

thats nothing compared to the faces Cowher was making last night, or any night for that matter.

railcon56 · 10-11-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

I'm just disappointed in our defense. Nothing will erase a 34 yard td, and a 55 yard td from my mind, unless we get a blowout win. Just really disappointed in our run defense, is all. And they still won't play Lavar. What's up with that?

Right again Mooby

10-10-2005, 08:40 AM	#46
LongTimeSkinsFan Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: LaVale MD Age: 62 Posts: 515	Re: One thing will never change. I agree. We are improving in many areas, although special teams has many needs that have to be addressed. It WAS nice to see us pull off a punt block yesterday, but I seriously question Thrash on punt returns (it seems like 95% of the time he FCs), and Betts, while he is consistent, just doesn't have the speed to break a KO return. As stupid as it sounds, I really walked away from that game feeling like we were playing against the Broncos and the refs. I've always found it interesting that Shanahan's teams have always had an 'unusual' relationship with the referees. I don't know if its because of his whiney, plaintive nature or if it's something else going on, but even when he was running Oakland, they always seemed to get a few more calls there way than the other guy in each game. Finally, I found it highly amusing that yet another 'sports analyst' (this one from Foxsports) underplays the Redskins effort in a game that they were 'supposed to lose'. 'Ian Gold's break-up of a Mark Brunell pass on a potential game-tying, late fourth quarter, two-point conversion attempt was the clutch play of the weekend. The ball seemed destined to land in David Patten's paws until Gold suddenly appeared out of nowhere and made an athletic and heady play to break it up. The Broncos didn't play their best, and that's what makes the 21-19 win against a quality Redskins team one to savor.' Hmmm, we'll just ignore the fact that Portis ran for over 100 yds, Brunell passed for over 300, and several questionable officiating calls had a bearing on the final outcome (especially the 'not-fumble', 'not-safety' play). I would like to know how the referees are reviewed with regards to their performance, if at all. I know that in baseball, umpires are 'graded' on their adjudication of the game and their review is directly tied to incentives and in some cases even their continued tenure. __________________ ...skins fan since 72 and still breathin'!

10-10-2005, 08:53 AM	#47
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: One thing will never change. If we can stop the stupid penalties, I feel VERY positive we can take it to Kansas City BAD next week. Their defense is MUCH worse than Denver's. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-10-2005, 09:05 AM	#48
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 62 Posts: 323	Re: One thing will never change. This one stings becuse we had the game and let it slip away.we did compete and after all the ref's inconsistancies, we still could have won. why didn't springs play? we need to use lavar on passing downs, just like marvin used him. just watching this team fight to come out of the funk and morass that this team has been in for soo long is both inspiring and agonizing.but they are still my team.

10-10-2005, 09:30 AM	#49
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: One thing will never change. The Gibbs-mentality is coming through I see. This team has been in every game down to the bitter end, win or lose. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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