Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

This is the other part of my problem. He's only been here 3 years and with a franchise that is/was in rebuilding mode. The last coach that coached here for over 3 years was NORV TURNER and they fired him in 2000. All other coaches have been here for 3 years or less.

To me that's a glaring consistency problem.

Except Zorn. He needed to go.

I reserve the right to change this opinion after 8 more games, but at this point, bringing Shanahan back for 2013 would be way more inexcusable than bringing Zorn back for 2009 was. And could result in a season that would be even more of a disaster.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Yeah, let's fire him and hire Jeff Fischer.


New England Patriots vs. St. Louis Rams - Box Score - October 28, 2012 - ESPN



Doing a hell of a job in St. Louis. I mean his record is so much better than Shanahan's and he's definitely not getting waxed at home either.

Difference being the Rams don't have the money to pay Fisher and another coach, but we do, and that should be a deciding factor in who coaches each team next year.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I don't know about that. We have good pieces in offense and defense (front 7), the only thing we really need to fix is secondary. Don't forget, we lost few key players to injuries on both sides. As for Shanny, I have to agree with you that his record doesn't show much. But from what I am seeing from Redskins team, compared to last few years before Shanny era, the team is better now.

Injuries are league wide. We need depth. Depth across the board plus a secondary. Plus even with a healthy Garcon maybe some wide recievers after what I saw today. Plus a damn punter.
Not just a secondary. I thought that just last week. I did. Now i think this.


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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

That's pretty much what happened towards the end of his days in Denver, right? Every year, some defensive coordinator took the fall. One year, the figurehead GM (Sundquist) took the fall. Eventually, Pat Bowlen had to step in.

Originally Posted by The Goat

Right, so just take care of the real problem up front, and start your search for a new HC tomorrow, right?

...and how has that worked out for Denver so far?


Cliffnotes: It hasn't.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Right, so just take care of the real problem up front, and start your search for a new HC tomorrow, right?

I think firing him tomorrow or even at the bye would be really reactionary and counterproductive. You want to at least see if the team has the character to rebound from a big loss.

But taking a look around at other names would be prudent at this point. You don't want to be caught with your pants down after the season.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

No. MS should not be fired during the season or after it. He gets 5 years.

5 years I think is good. I'm just not crazy about firing him after 3 years, especially with a franchise that was recently in shambles.

That said, I don't mind taking a very close look at the defensive coordinator position.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

...and how has that worked out for Denver so far?


Cliffnotes: It hasn't.

They were a playoff team last year and lookin like one this year.


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[The Goat]

Given the way Shanahan is dragging this team through the mud, at what point does the fan face the question: Am I a Skins fan or a Shanahan fan?

Right now, with enough kool-aid or scotch, you can be both. Some of us choose to stick to water on Sundays. But eventually we'll all have to choose, just as Denver did.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Difference being the Rams don't have the money to pay Fisher and another coach, but we do, and that should be a deciding factor in who coaches each team next year.

Wait, you mean to tell me that a man (Stan Kroenke) with a net worth of 3.2 billion can't afford to pay 2 coaches, but Dan Snyder can?.....lol



Wrong.

[KI Skins Fan]

I've gone from wanting to keep Shanny to where I need him to prove something now. If he can only win 5 or 6 games this year, I wouldn't mind a bit if he's fired at the end of the season.

My hunch-backed granny could win 6 games with RGIII at QB.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

...and how has that worked out for Denver so far?


Cliffnotes: It hasn't.

Well, they might be the best team in the AFC...

But Denver made a ton of mistakes after firing Shanahan. I'm not suggesting by any means that we fire the coach and trade RG3 to the Rams for Sam Bradford and two first rounders, then hire Josh McDaniels and start Kirk Cousins.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Wait, you mean to tell me that a man (Stan Kroenke) with a net worth of 3.2 billion can't afford to pay 2 coaches, but Dan Snyder can?.....lol



Wrong.

Well, he'd be doing it at a significant personal financial loss.

But if your point is he could afford it, then yes, yes he could.

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Yeah, let's fire him and hire Jeff Fischer.


New England Patriots vs. St. Louis Rams - Box Score - October 28, 2012 - ESPN



Doing a hell of a job in St. Louis. I mean his record is so much better than Shanahan's and he's definitely not getting waxed at home either.

He did beat Shanny just a few weeks ago.


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[The Goat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

They were a playoff team last year and lookin like one this year.


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Thank you...I'm not sure NC actually follows football.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Thank you...I'm not sure NC actually follows football.

They actually beat the steelers with tim frikkin tebow at qb. The steelers who just made little girls out of us.


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