Release Him!!!

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by jsarno

How do you think he knows???

i dont know that he knows

[GusFrerotte]

It is between THrash and ARE without a doubt. I wouldn't cut Jansen, but would demote him, that way you could get better use of him since he can't start for a whole season anymore. Granted that Thrash did do a stint in Philly, but to me he is still a Norv retread, that never really amounted to much. He peaked during his time with Philly anf now is even worse than his days with Norv. You guys are right, ARE is a total waste of space. A lot of our more athletic posters in here could have given the Skins better production.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

It is between THrash and ARE without a doubt. I wouldn't cut Jansen, but would demote him, that way you could get better use of him since he can't start for a whole season anymore. Granted that Thrash did do a stint in Philly, but to me he is still a Norv retread, that never really amounted to much. He peaked during his time with Philly anf now is even worse than his days with Norv. You guys are right, ARE is a total waste of space. A lot of our more athletic posters in here could have given the Skins better production.

I think as the #3 ARL will surprise a lot of us and be a really nice compliment to the offense...it's relying on him as #2 that sucks. Basically it revolves around Devin stepping up and being our #2 WR, taking focus off Moss and leaving ARL to finds pockets underneath. There's a lot of potential w/ what we have...

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I think as the #3 ARL will surprise a lot of us and be a really nice compliment to the offense...it's relying on him as #2 that sucks. Basically it revolves around Devin stepping up and being our #2 WR, taking focus off Moss and leaving ARL to finds pockets underneath. There's a lot of potential w/ what we have...

I agree completely!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I think as the #3 ARL will surprise a lot of us and be a really nice compliment to the offense...it's relying on him as #2 that sucks. Basically it revolves around Devin stepping up and being our #2 WR, taking focus off Moss and leaving ARL to finds pockets underneath. There's a lot of potential w/ what we have...

Absolutely.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'd go w/ Thrash first...we save a bit on cap and to boot he's basically been replaced already. I'll be very surprised if he makes the final roster. But if it's an actual starter we're talking about...Rabach. He sucks hard, cutting him saves a bit on cap room and we should be able to find a replacement.

I agree with you Goat, it James Thrash. He is a solid locker room guy and pro but we have better WR and enough special teams players that can replace him. Rock can play RB and is a solid return guy that dosent turn the ball over. So Thrash is not going to be on the 53 man roster this season.

[skins89moss]

How are we going to release Rabach when he is our only proven center on the roster. Sure let Jansen get some reps at center and if he shows he be a capable backup center that gives us depth at that position. The UDFA out of Maryland Williams will hopefully get a shot in camp but he maybe a practice squad player this year. The center is the QB of the offensive line they make the calls for the line. Not easy to replace him.

[Missin21]

I would have to go with Carlos Rogers. Everytime I see him line up 10 yards off the LOS, I wanna scream. Especially when the LOS is inside the 5 yardlne. Are you serious 'Los? You are lining up IN THE ENDZONE? Great.

Not to mention his lack of hands. How many times does the ball hit him RIGHT IN THE HANDS & then he drops the ball.

Then there's his coverage which often times draws penalties because he's usually looking at the receiver, not the ball. IMO, he's a bust & it's time to give him the boot. Hopefully, DeAngelo Hall will give us reason give him the ultimate boot.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Missin21

I would have to go with Carlos Rogers. Everytime I see him line up 10 yards off the LOS, I wanna scream. Especially when the LOS is inside the 5 yardlne. Are you serious 'Los? You are lining up IN THE ENDZONE? Great.

Not to mention his lack of hands. How many times does the ball hit him RIGHT IN THE HANDS & then he drops the ball.

Then there's his coverage which often times draws penalties because he's usually looking at the receiver, not the ball. IMO, he's a bust & it's time to give him the boot. Hopefully, DeAngelo Hall will give us reason give him the ultimate boot.

So if Hall gives us reason to give him the boot, who takes over as the other starter? Rogers is certainly better than Smoot (the ultimate cushion-giver). Hall is still TBD as a Redskin, and Barnes hasn't played a down yet. If we give Rogers the boot, a starting caliber CB becomes an immediate priority.

Ideally Hall returns to pro-bowl form, Rogers played like he did during the first half of '08, and Barnes steps right in and challenges Smoot for the 3rd corner (which I think is already happening).

Welcome to board btw. I'm always missin 21.

[Missin21]

Originally Posted by GMScud

So if Hall gives us reason to give him the boot, who takes over as the other starter? Rogers is certainly better than Smoot (the ultimate cushion-giver). Hall is still TBD as a Redskin, and Barnes hasn't played a down yet. If we give Rogers the boot, a starting caliber CB becomes an immediate priority.

Ideally Hall returns to pro-bowl form, Rogers played like he did during the first half of '08, and Barnes steps right in and challenges Smoot for the 3rd corner (which I think is already happening).

Welcome to board btw. I'm always missin 21.

Thanks for the welcome.

To be honest, I don't know. I think at this point, we can't release him because we are too close to mini-camps & training camp, but early in the offseason, this is a move I would go with. Because of all the things I mentioned.

I like Smoot for his energy, but you are right about giving more cushion then Rogers. So like I said, about who to replace Rogers, I simply don't know. I would not want to throw caution to the wind, as this FO has done so often in the past & put some un-tested CB back there...too many things can go wrong there. At this point, I guess we wait it out & HOPE that things go better for him this year.

That being said, this is the "Release Him!' thread, not the "replace him thread" so you caught me off guard with that. LOL

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Missin21

Thanks for the welcome.

To be honest, I don't know. I think at this point, we can't release him because we are too close to mini-camps & training camp, but early in the offseason, this is a move I would go with. Because of all the things I mentioned.

I like Smoot for his energy, but you are right about giving more cushion then Rogers. So like I said, about who to replace Rogers, I simply don't know. I would not want to throw caution to the wind, as this FO has done so often in the past & put some un-tested CB back there...too many things can go wrong there. At this point, I guess we wait it out & HOPE that things go better for him this year.

That being said, this is the "Release Him!' thread, not the "replace him thread" so you caught me off guard with that. LOL

No worries. Just asking for the sake of conversation. Nothing in this thread says you have to name a replacement for the guy you want to release. Common sense just says it's naturally the next question.

[DBUCHANON101]

id have to say Randle EL. for the money he is getting he certainly isnt delivering what he should be.

[Missin21]

Originally Posted by GMScud

No worries. Just asking for the sake of conversation. Nothing in this thread says you have to name a replacement for the guy you want to release. Common sense just says it's naturally the next question.

You are absolutely right. I just hadn't thought that far, that's all. If I had my choice, I would replace him with Ed Reed.

[Missin21]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

id have to say Randle EL. for the money he is getting he certainly isnt delivering what he should be.

As a WR, I like him. He's been good in that position for us. As a PR, I agree. He hasn't done anything there & quite honestly, I get tired of watching him go sideline to sideline trying to make a play & only gaining a yard, when he should be running north/south. Take the hit or don't return punts. Plain & simple.

Like others have said in this thread id cut ARE if we didnt have to take the cap hit. Id much rather just have Moss, Thomas, and Kelly catching passes at WR. ARE is a slot WR at best and he is a terrible returner. Hes not worth what we are paying him. For the years he has played and the amount we have spent he is the worst FA signing the Skins have ever had since Snyder has been here. Some would say others like Arch but at least we got rid of him after one year via trade and drafted LaRon Landry. Randle El has been here since 2006 and hasnt done one thing for this team imo and hes getting paid massive amounts of green.