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Old 08-05-2009, 09:27 AM   #1
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And apparently we signed this Marquart guy (a DT) to replace Manapuna's roster spot.

So there goes the theory that we are about to grab an OT. Doesn't mean it can't happen, I'm sure that as camp goes along if the coaches find reason to worry about RT, they'll send Vinny out to bark up all kinds of free agent trees.
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:37 AM   #2
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There's no need to panic, but it's hard to be comfortable with our current linemen. Even Zorn admitted he was reluctant to call deep passing plays last season because he didn't think our line would give Jason time. Is there any reason to think our line will be able to provide Jason with more time this season?
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:44 AM   #3
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There's no need to panic, but it's hard to be comfortable with our current linemen. Even Zorn admitted he was reluctant to call deep passing plays last season because he didn't think our line would give Jason time. Is there any reason to think our line will be able to provide Jason with more time this season?
late in the season wasn't this line. I went through it somewhere else, but Jansen gone, Geisinger gone, other depth linemen gone. Samuels Healthy, Bridges here, Dockery here.

There was no splashy off season acquisition, but neither is this the same group that crashed so spectacularly last year. I think the FO's approach was something along the lines of : Our starters healthy went 6-2, our backups went 2-6 --- FIRE the backups. So they did and went and got a whole bunch of new back ups. I hope they are right.
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late in the season wasn't this line. I went through it somewhere else, but Jansen gone, Geisinger gone, other depth linemen gone. Samuels Healthy, Bridges here, Dockery here.

There was no splashy off season acquisition, but neither is this the same group that crashed so spectacularly last year. I think the FO's approach was something along the lines of : Our starters healthy went 6-2, our backups went 2-6 --- FIRE the backups. So they did and went and got a whole bunch of new back ups. I hope they are right.
good points

Overall could we be in a more favorable situation? Sure. But I'm far from hitting the panic button over your typical training camp bumps and bruises. Last I checked we haven't lost anyone to a significant injury.
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late in the season wasn't this line. I went through it somewhere else, but Jansen gone, Geisinger gone, other depth linemen gone. Samuels Healthy, Bridges here, Dockery here.

There was no splashy off season acquisition, but neither is this the same group that crashed so spectacularly last year. I think the FO's approach was something along the lines of : Our starters healthy went 6-2, our backups went 2-6 --- FIRE the backups. So they did and went and got a whole bunch of new back ups. I hope they are right.
Good points. My biggest problem is I just don't see anyone on our roster who can step in and play right tackle. I always liked Heyer as a backup, but I don't trust him as a starter. And I certainly don't trust Mike Williams as a right tackle either.
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Good points. My biggest problem is I just don't see anyone on our roster who can step in and play right tackle. I always liked Heyer as a backup, but I don't trust him as a starter. And I certainly don't trust Mike Williams as a right tackle either.
I hear ya, and I wanted Oher real bad at the draft, but when Orakpo was there I understood. After that any RT taken or acquired was, in my opinion as big a crap shoot as Heyer, and he has been in our system.

I have this basic belief in a healthy Samuels, if he is in and playing teams will have to account for it, and the rest of the line is better. when/if he gets hurt the defenses can attack more at our weaker RT and we get stuck. I hope Bridges can be that effective fill in if Heyer has to go to the LT spot. but we will only know it on the field.
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I hear ya, and I wanted Oher real bad at the draft, but when Orakpo was there I understood. After that any RT taken or acquired was, in my opinion as big a crap shoot as Heyer, and he has been in our system.

I have this basic belief in a healthy Samuels, if he is in and playing teams will have to account for it, and the rest of the line is better. when/if he gets hurt the defenses can attack more at our weaker RT and we get stuck. I hope Bridges can be that effective fill in if Heyer has to go to the LT spot. but we will only know it on the field.
This is an excellent point which goes unnoticed by many folks who scream, "Why didn't they draft an OT?"

In the '08 draft the best WR on many boards fell into our lap. In the '09 draft the best defensive player on many boards fell in our lap. Perhaps '10 will be the year for a tackle to miraculously appear.
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Our starters healthy went 6-2, our backups went 2-6 --- FIRE the backups. So they did and went and got a whole bunch of new back ups. I hope they are right.
That is a good way of looking at it...

*sigh* I just have to wait and hope it works out.
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There's no need to panic, but it's hard to be comfortable with our current linemen. Even Zorn admitted he was reluctant to call deep passing plays last season because he didn't think our line would give Jason time. Is there any reason to think our line will be able to provide Jason with more time this season?
These are my feelings as well. What bothers me more is not the line itself, but the fact almost nothing was done to change what the head coach noted was lacking.

Why are Zorn's concerns not addressed via free agency or draft? Is this whole get the best talent thing panning out? Especially when the need is so severe.
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Just got a tweet from Redskins Insider - Heyer's MRI on his knee revealed no structural damage, so they're just going to give him a few days rest. Phew.
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We need the Jason Campbell haters to come out and rant that last year's demise was entirely his fault. Maybe this will come down the gloom and doom crowd about the offensive line.
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:21 PM   #13
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We need the Jason Campbell haters to come out and rant that last year's demise was entirely his fault. Maybe this will come down the gloom and doom crowd about the offensive line.
Do you think that they O-Line will be ready to start against the GMen and win? I'm more than confident about about the D. Even the special teams will be better with Hunter. I'm not hating on the O-Line, but as of right now I don't think they're a "Championship Level" squad.
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Ok, try this:

Trade Golston or Monty, plus Doughty, to Jax for Tony Pashos.
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Ok, try this:

Trade Golston or Monty, plus Doughty, to Jax for Tony Pashos.
Something like this is much closer to what could happen. Does JAX have a big need at DT like Carolina does?

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