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Old 09-06-2012, 11:16 PM   #1
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That was before he was against it. Or was it after he was for it. Or was it before he was after it.

This convention is nothing more than energizing the base, I will be surprised if there's any bump for the Ds after this debacle. Might even see Romney's advance get stronger.
Wow. Yeah no. You make it sound as if all the dems did was blow hot air for 3 days and made no valid arguments or counter-arguments whatsoever. Like.. none. Zero. Why bother having a convention? Time to pack it in!

If anything, the numbers will stay the same, if not, make things a little closer.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:00 AM   #2
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That was before he was against it. Or was it after he was for it. Or was it before he was after it.

This convention is nothing more than energizing the base, I will be surprised if there's any bump for the Ds after this debacle. Might even see Romney's advance get stronger.
Agreed. Dems are on the defensive, asking for patience instead of talking about accomplishments. Republicans are now in the same positon the Dems were in during the 2008 election talking about a failed presidency and telling the American people that they can get us out of this rut.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:04 PM   #3
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Agreed. Dems are on the defensive, asking for patience instead of talking about accomplishments. Republicans are now in the same positon the Dems were in during the 2008 election talking about a failed presidency and telling the American people that they can get us out of this rut.
Wait, we were losing 750,000 jobs per month, now we're adding private sector jobs at a clip of about 138K this year; 150k the year before. You're telling me that's not an improvement?

Most of the job losses under Obama have been gov't and public sector jobs.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:38 AM   #4
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This convention is nothing more than energizing the base, I will be surprised if there's any bump for the Ds after this debacle. Might even see Romney's advance get stronger.
What flavor of kool-aid is it you are drinking???
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:18 AM   #5
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What flavor of kool-aid is it you are drinking???
Apparently the same as Jen Psaki.

Obama Campaign Aides: No Expectation of Post-Convention Bounce - NationalJournal.com
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:38 PM   #6
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That was before he was against it. Or was it after he was for it. Or was it before he was after it.

This convention is nothing more than energizing the base, I will be surprised if there's any bump for the Ds after this debacle. Might even see Romney's advance get stronger.
SURPRISE!!!!


Those looking for a convention bump may find what they are looking for in the Gallup daily tracking poll, which produced good news on Friday for President Barack Obama.
Gallup's last three nights of interviewing of adults, conducted Sept. 4 to 6, shows Obama with a 52 percent approval rating, the highest approval percentage reported for Obama on the Gallup tracking poll since May 2011, just after the killing of Osama bin Laden

Gallup Poll Shows Bump In Approval For Obama After Convention
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:11 PM   #7
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Why does the DNC think that Romney and Ryan want to go back to some of Clinton's policies ..... How HUD Mortgage Policy Fed The Crisis , snopes.com: Fannie Mae Eases Credit to Aid Mortgage Lending.
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Why does the DNC think that Romney and Ryan want to go back to some of Clinton's policies ..... How HUD Mortgage Policy Fed The Crisis , snopes.com: Fannie Mae Eases Credit to Aid Mortgage Lending.


I don't recall hearing anybody say this. Link?
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Old 09-07-2012, 07:18 AM   #9
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I don't recall hearing anybody say this. Link?
Clinton and others have stated that R&R want to go back to the " failed policies that got us into this mess " , as the Dems are claiming that the Bush tax cuts are what caused the problems. The Truth is , Presdent Clinton passed the
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/ma...gewanted=print and the subprime lending act . Clinton Faults Himself for Financial Industry Deregulation | The Washington Independent. I just find it almost funny how dumb so many people are on the causes of the housing / banking crisis. Joe Corzine = CEO Golman Sachs , R. Rubin CEO , Citi , Barney Frank, Frank Rains , Fannie Mae . And of course some worthless sacks of garbage on wall street .Who Is To Blame for the Fannie Mae

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Clinton and others have stated that R&R want to go back to the " failed policies that got us into this mess " , as the Dems are claiming that the Bush tax cuts are what caused the problems. The Truth is , Presdent Clinton passed the
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/ma...gewanted=print and the subprime lending act . Clinton Faults Himself for Financial Industry Deregulation | The Washington Independent. I just find it almost funny how dumb so many people are on the causes of the housing / banking crisis. Joe Corzine = CEO Golman Sachs , R. Rubin CEO , Citi , Barney Frank, Frank Rains , Fannie Mae . And of course some worthless sacks of garbage on wall street .Who Is To Blame for the Fannie Mae

Not sure why you brought up the subprime lending act as I don't recall them specifically saying this which is why I asked for a link. I'm quite well aware of when the banking deregulation took place, but I think you are off base on what he's talking about. The failed policies he's talking about is:

1) Cutting taxes for ultra rich
2) Increase military spending
3) Sustaining wars on foreign lands
4) Deregulating businesses and banks in general


However, lets look at the bill you are talking about. You do realize this bill wasn't brought forth by a democrat right? It was 3 Republicans that sponsored this bill.

Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas), Rep. Jim Leach (R, Iowa), and Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R, Virginia), the co-sponsors of the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act.

Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


If you look, a vast majority of those opposed were democrats. So let's point that finger in the right direction. Thanks!
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:44 PM   #11
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Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

wow...I was embarresed to watch this.
This is my former governer that used to buy garbage from Canada.

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Old 09-07-2012, 03:10 PM   #12
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And let's face it if Obama wasn't running on his record, as some pretend, he'd be getting absolutely hammered in the polls. Especially in states like IA, PA, and OH. Where he's leading and voters pay attention to the issues.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:30 PM   #13
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Just ran the Clinton speech from the other night, WOW. That dude still got it, he is the master speaker.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:02 PM   #14
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"Since 1961 … our private economy has produced 66 million private-sector jobs. So what's the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 (million)."

so, SS, that's a bad arguement. the above statement is true, though it's hard to say specifically who did what.
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:43 PM   #15
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"Since 1961 … our private economy has produced 66 million private-sector jobs. So what's the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 (million)."

so, SS, that's a bad arguement. the above statement is true, though it's hard to say specifically who did what.
The comparison was specific to the recovery periods of Obama vs. Reagan.
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