Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal

12thMan · 03-06-2006, 12:46 PM

NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue and Players Association chief Gene Upshaw have reached a tentative agreement on a labor settlement that will be presented to the sport's team owners for approval during a meeting scheduled to begin Tuesday afternoon in Dallas, a source familiar with the proceedings said this morning.

Negotiators for the two sides will resume talks today to put the details of the agreement between Tagliabue and Upshaw into writing, the source said.

The deal would have to be approved by at least 24 of the 32 NFL teams to go into effect. Details of the proposed settlement were not immediately available.

On Sunday morning, the deal appeared to be on the verge of getting done when Upshaw indicated that he thought the owners and the union were close. Negotiations resumed just after 11 a.m. in New York, and union officials still thought around noon that an agreement with the owners was within reach. But they said that the owners backtracked in their proposals from there -- while the league said it offered to increase player compensation to unprecedented levels -- and negotiations broke off around 6:30 p.m.

Upshaw and other union representatives headed to dinner, saying they had no plans for the deliberations to resume before the scheduled opening of the league's free agent market at midnight. Clearly, however, something was up. The two sides had agreed around 5 p.m. to postpone a 6 p.m. deadline until 10 for teams to release players to get under the $94.5 million-per-team salary cap. After the negotiations broke up, the deadline was pushed back again until 11:30. Why push back the deadline if negotiations were dead? Obviously, they weren't.

The owners and Tagliabue conducted a conference call and, according to Upshaw, the union's leaders received a phone call saying the league would put the players' latest proposal before the owners for a ratification vote during a meeting in Dallas scheduled to begin at 3 p.m. Tuesday. At that point, Upshaw said, the league and union agreed to a second three-day postponement of the opening of free agency, now scheduled for 12:01 a.m. Thursday. Teams now have until Wednesday night to be under the salary cap; if they must release players to do so, those moves must be completed by 9 p.m. Wednesday.

This morning's development means the owners will now vote on an approved deal instead of a proposal.

12thMan · 03-06-2006, 12:47 PM

Hey, if this old, please delete.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-06-2006, 12:58 PM

I don't think it's old. It's fine. I just can't take any more of these delays though. The talks are dead, we have an agreement, the talks are dead, we need more time, etc. I wonder why people hate lawyers?

FRPLG · 03-06-2006, 12:59 PM

This is not old but more a clarification of the situation. The "approved" stamp hadn't been eluded to before Maske's column. Upshaw has a good relationship with the Post adn Maske so I am guessing this is the first anyone has heard of that. That is promising that the deal is "approved" by the management council. Gives it a better shot of getting ratified by the owners in gemeral. All they need is 24 votes and I would guess based on previous reports they are somewhere in the neighborhood of 22 votes strong with 10 being opposed based on revenue sharing issues. It was reported that Snyder was willing to bend a little to get a deal done so maybe that's 23 and I would bet at least one other guy will blink too. Cross fingers that this gets done.

JoeRedskin · 03-06-2006, 01:21 PM

What is the satus of this thread and is there a link? Thanks.

Schneed10 · 03-06-2006, 01:22 PM

Link please.

Schneed10 · 03-06-2006, 01:25 PM

Found it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...030600660.html

SmootSmack · 03-06-2006, 01:25 PM

Mort was saying on ESPNNews the owners will vote for it at their meeting on Tuesday, which may extend into Wednesday. I think he said one sticking point is going to be the whole "cash over cap" thing with the have and have-not owners battling each other over it.

Schneed10 · 03-06-2006, 01:26 PM

It's promising that they came to an agreement, but we still need the owners to approve. That gets hairy with revenue sharing issues, so it remains to be seen how this will turn out. I'm guessing we'll know tomorrow after the owners' meeting.

gibbs4life · 03-06-2006, 02:45 PM

i just hope they agree on something so it will be over with.
keeping my fingers crossed....

hoping for the best for both sides......

JWsleep · 03-06-2006, 03:13 PM

Man, I am getting tired of this! But it does seem encouraging, and Maske is pretty tied in to this stuff. Tags is pushing to fix things--wonder if the owners will find a way to agree? My advice to Danny-boy and the "rich" (as if any NFL owner is poor!) owners is to accept an agreement, and find a new loop-hole down the road. It's like campaign finance--there's always a way for the special interests to fund their guy, no matter what the law tries. Here, it's the same thing--Danny and his team are super-creative in finding ways to pump monies back into the team. Do they really think they won't find a way to do it even with restrictions on cash-over-cap?

Make the deal, damn it!

bigm29 · 03-06-2006, 03:15 PM

as long as the deal gets done i dont care how long it takes. Its crucial to the league and more importantly the redskins this year. but i have to agree it is getting old.

plus if a deal is reached and after the realse of aarington thats like an extra 14mil. in cap room

RobH4413 · 03-06-2006, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigm29

as long as the deal gets done i dont care how long it takes. Its crucial to the league and more importantly the redskins this year. but i have to agree it is getting old.

plus if a deal is reached and after the realse of aarington thats like an extra 14mil. in cap room

not to mix threads but.... warm up the jet baby!

70Chip · 03-06-2006, 05:08 PM

I think Snyder should do what is best for the Redskins long term--not just go along to get along. If the other owners don't like the cash over cap situation they need to tighten up their accounting rules and disallow amortization of signing bonuses. I hope he takes a hard line. It galls me on several levels to think that some of these small-change owners--everyone a layabout or goof off--will in effect become shareholders in the Redskins.

I am willing to suffer another year so that the Redskins don't get ripped off.

12thMan · 03-06-2006, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I think Snyder should do what is best for the Redskins long term--not just go along to get along. If the other owners don't like the cash over cap situation they need to tighten up their accounting rules and disallow amortization of signing bonuses. I hope he takes a hard line. It galls me on several levels to think that some of these small-change owners--everyone a layabout or goof off--will in effect become shareholders in the Redskins.

I am willing to suffer another year so that the Redskins don't get ripped off.

I can definitely relate to you wanting Snyder to take a hard line on this one. He's a business man, a good one at that, and I think he'll do what's best for the team and the NFL. But to take a hard line just to take it is unlikely.
Unfortunately, to suffer one more year would hurt Snyder's product and I think that's the last thing he would want to do.

03-06-2006, 12:46 PM	#1
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal (Disregard Thread) NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue and Players Association chief Gene Upshaw have reached a tentative agreement on a labor settlement that will be presented to the sport's team owners for approval during a meeting scheduled to begin Tuesday afternoon in Dallas, a source familiar with the proceedings said this morning. Negotiators for the two sides will resume talks today to put the details of the agreement between Tagliabue and Upshaw into writing, the source said. The deal would have to be approved by at least 24 of the 32 NFL teams to go into effect. Details of the proposed settlement were not immediately available. On Sunday morning, the deal appeared to be on the verge of getting done when Upshaw indicated that he thought the owners and the union were close. Negotiations resumed just after 11 a.m. in New York, and union officials still thought around noon that an agreement with the owners was within reach. But they said that the owners backtracked in their proposals from there -- while the league said it offered to increase player compensation to unprecedented levels -- and negotiations broke off around 6:30 p.m. Upshaw and other union representatives headed to dinner, saying they had no plans for the deliberations to resume before the scheduled opening of the league's free agent market at midnight. Clearly, however, something was up. The two sides had agreed around 5 p.m. to postpone a 6 p.m. deadline until 10 for teams to release players to get under the $94.5 million-per-team salary cap. After the negotiations broke up, the deadline was pushed back again until 11:30. Why push back the deadline if negotiations were dead? Obviously, they weren't. The owners and Tagliabue conducted a conference call and, according to Upshaw, the union's leaders received a phone call saying the league would put the players' latest proposal before the owners for a ratification vote during a meeting in Dallas scheduled to begin at 3 p.m. Tuesday. At that point, Upshaw said, the league and union agreed to a second three-day postponement of the opening of free agency, now scheduled for 12:01 a.m. Thursday. Teams now have until Wednesday night to be under the salary cap; if they must release players to do so, those moves must be completed by 9 p.m. Wednesday. This morning's development means the owners will now vote on an approved deal instead of a proposal. Last edited by 12thMan; 03-06-2006 at 12:50 PM. Reason: Please delte this thread.

03-06-2006, 12:47 PM	#2
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal Hey, if this old, please delete.

03-06-2006, 12:58 PM	#3
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal I don't think it's old. It's fine. I just can't take any more of these delays though. The talks are dead, we have an agreement, the talks are dead, we need more time, etc. I wonder why people hate lawyers?

03-06-2006, 12:59 PM	#4
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal This is not old but more a clarification of the situation. The "approved" stamp hadn't been eluded to before Maske's column. Upshaw has a good relationship with the Post adn Maske so I am guessing this is the first anyone has heard of that. That is promising that the deal is "approved" by the management council. Gives it a better shot of getting ratified by the owners in gemeral. All they need is 24 votes and I would guess based on previous reports they are somewhere in the neighborhood of 22 votes strong with 10 being opposed based on revenue sharing issues. It was reported that Snyder was willing to bend a little to get a deal done so maybe that's 23 and I would bet at least one other guy will blink too. Cross fingers that this gets done.

03-06-2006, 01:21 PM	#5
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal What is the satus of this thread and is there a link? Thanks.

03-06-2006, 01:22 PM	#6
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,422	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal Link please. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

03-06-2006, 01:25 PM	#7
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,422	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal Found it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...030600660.html __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

03-06-2006, 01:25 PM	#8
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal Mort was saying on ESPNNews the owners will vote for it at their meeting on Tuesday, which may extend into Wednesday. I think he said one sticking point is going to be the whole "cash over cap" thing with the have and have-not owners battling each other over it. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-06-2006, 01:26 PM	#9
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,422	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal It's promising that they came to an agreement, but we still need the owners to approve. That gets hairy with revenue sharing issues, so it remains to be seen how this will turn out. I'm guessing we'll know tomorrow after the owners' meeting. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

03-06-2006, 02:45 PM	#10
gibbs4life Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: chocowinity nc Age: 55 Posts: 282	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal i just hope they agree on something so it will be over with. keeping my fingers crossed.... hoping for the best for both sides...... __________________ with the sixth pick dan synder selects......daniel synder ...to find someone that will be a better fit for the front office..

03-06-2006, 03:13 PM	#11
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,717	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal Man, I am getting tired of this! But it does seem encouraging, and Maske is pretty tied in to this stuff. Tags is pushing to fix things--wonder if the owners will find a way to agree? My advice to Danny-boy and the "rich" (as if any NFL owner is poor!) owners is to accept an agreement, and find a new loop-hole down the road. It's like campaign finance--there's always a way for the special interests to fund their guy, no matter what the law tries. Here, it's the same thing--Danny and his team are super-creative in finding ways to pump monies back into the team. Do they really think they won't find a way to do it even with restrictions on cash-over-cap? Make the deal, damn it! __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-06-2006, 03:15 PM	#12
bigm29 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mt. Laurel, NJ Age: 36 Posts: 353	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal as long as the deal gets done i dont care how long it takes. Its crucial to the league and more importantly the redskins this year. but i have to agree it is getting old. plus if a deal is reached and after the realse of aarington thats like an extra 14mil. in cap room __________________ Hail Redskins!!!

03-06-2006, 05:08 PM	#14
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Tentative Deal Reached on Labor Deal I think Snyder should do what is best for the Redskins long term--not just go along to get along. If the other owners don't like the cash over cap situation they need to tighten up their accounting rules and disallow amortization of signing bonuses. I hope he takes a hard line. It galls me on several levels to think that some of these small-change owners--everyone a layabout or goof off--will in effect become shareholders in the Redskins. I am willing to suffer another year so that the Redskins don't get ripped off. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

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