Lions | C. Rogers might be able to keep his bonus

That Guy · 03-24-2006, 10:54 AM

Lions | C. Rogers might be able to keep his bonus
Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:21:48 -0800
Mike O'Hara, of the Detroit News, reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers may be able to keep his full signing bonus because of the new collective bargaining agreement being reached. As part of the extension, the power has swung from owners to the players in the so-called "disciplinary" clauses. For Rogers, that means the Lions aren't likely to prevail in their bid to reclaim more than $10 million of the $14 million rookie signing bonus Rogers received as a first-round draft pick in 2003. The NFL Players Association's position last year was that the Lions had no right to go after a player's signing bonus and that forfeiting the game checks was the appropriate punishment. The union's position now is that "disciplinary" clauses in the extension, which are still being fine-tuned as negotiations continue, strengthen their stand. Rogers' agent, Kevin Poston, has been in contact with the union and said he never doubted that the signing bonus was off limits.

so apparently doing drugs is alright. you don't have to work and you still get paid... I hope pwned doesn't learn the wrong lesson from this.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-24-2006, 12:07 PM

That's something that really did piss me off about the new CBA. Basically it means that the players can act like total jackasses and get away with it.

dmek25 · 03-24-2006, 12:36 PM

because rogers signed that deal prior to the new cba,would that contract be grandfathered to the old cba

That Guy · 03-24-2006, 12:56 PM

apparently not. I think the SB thing was in response to what happened to Ricky Williams. Its really hard to give back money you've already spent, and in the real world, it'd be illegal (unless you had behavoir clauses in the contract or some such. But even then, you'd think those clauses would be tied to future option bonuses, and not money they've already given you).

In other words, it sucks, but (after the rookie contract) It makes sense. Rookie contracts have to have a lot of guaranteed money though and generally don't have an easy way to tie money to clauses with so much in unguarded signing bonus.

D'BOYZ · 03-24-2006, 01:01 PM

Yeah I believe tha t2 and I also don't agree with that part of the new CBA I believe that the NFLPA did wrong putting that in the CBA.

03-24-2006, 10:54 AM	#1
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Lions \| C. Rogers might be able to keep his bonus Lions \| C. Rogers might be able to keep his bonus Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:21:48 -0800 Mike O'Hara, of the Detroit News, reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers may be able to keep his full signing bonus because of the new collective bargaining agreement being reached. As part of the extension, the power has swung from owners to the players in the so-called "disciplinary" clauses. For Rogers, that means the Lions aren't likely to prevail in their bid to reclaim more than $10 million of the $14 million rookie signing bonus Rogers received as a first-round draft pick in 2003. The NFL Players Association's position last year was that the Lions had no right to go after a player's signing bonus and that forfeiting the game checks was the appropriate punishment. The union's position now is that "disciplinary" clauses in the extension, which are still being fine-tuned as negotiations continue, strengthen their stand. Rogers' agent, Kevin Poston, has been in contact with the union and said he never doubted that the signing bonus was off limits. so apparently doing drugs is alright. you don't have to work and you still get paid... I hope pwned doesn't learn the wrong lesson from this.

03-24-2006, 12:07 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Lions \| C. Rogers might be able to keep his bonus That's something that really did piss me off about the new CBA. Basically it means that the players can act like total jackasses and get away with it. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-24-2006, 12:36 PM	#3
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Lions \| C. Rogers might be able to keep his bonus because rogers signed that deal prior to the new cba,would that contract be grandfathered to the old cba __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-24-2006, 12:56 PM	#4
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Lions \| C. Rogers might be able to keep his bonus apparently not. I think the SB thing was in response to what happened to Ricky Williams. Its really hard to give back money you've already spent, and in the real world, it'd be illegal (unless you had behavoir clauses in the contract or some such. But even then, you'd think those clauses would be tied to future option bonuses, and not money they've already given you). In other words, it sucks, but (after the rookie contract) It makes sense. Rookie contracts have to have a lot of guaranteed money though and generally don't have an easy way to tie money to clauses with so much in unguarded signing bonus.

03-24-2006, 01:01 PM	#5
D'BOYZ The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,363	Re: Lions \| C. Rogers might be able to keep his bonus Yeah I believe tha t2 and I also don't agree with that part of the new CBA I believe that the NFLPA did wrong putting that in the CBA.

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