Time for some False Hope from Peter King

[BrudLee]

From today's MMQBTE (emphasis mine):

ART MONK TIME. From Steve Woods of Houston: "In response to your list of 10 players left out of the Hall of Fame, I have my own list (which I know you won't agree with):

1) Art Monk.
2) Art Monk.
3) Art Monk.
4) Art Monk.

You get my drift, and yes, I am a biased die-hard 'Skins fan. Monk had 940 career receptions, 12,000 career yards, with three Super Bowls rings. I think the presence of John Riggins on the goal line is a big reason why he didn't have quite as many touchdowns as you would have thought, given his other stats, although he does have more than several receivers already in, such as Stallworth and Swann. The guy was a tremendous player, who, in my opinion, was the heart and soul of the offense for much of the '80s. You can't do any more than that. It sure does seem like you have some sort of bias against the 'Skins, and Monk in particular, in recent years. I don't understand that. Are you a Cowboys fan?!? Please say it isn't so.''

Ain't so. I'm a fan of no football team. You may be interested to know that I am going to rethink my position on Monk this year. I don't want to be so stuck in the mud on this issue that I close my mind to the possibility that I'm wrong and that Monk really does belong. So I'm going to sit down with Joe Gibbs when I see the Redskins this summer and try to soak in what the Monk side believes I am missing. A lot of people I respect tell me I'm dead wrong on Monk -- Len Shapiro, Mike Wilbon among them, plus quieter ones with close ties to the Hall. So I'll rethink my position and let you know what I come up with.

Now, I'm sure we'll be treated to "Guys, I thought about it, and he still isn't there." But this is certainly better that the annual column that says "Art isn't good enough, and let me devote a page in the premier sports magazine to telling the nation why, but I don't have a horse in this race."

[Dave Butz Baby!]

At least he has said he'll rethink it, which is shocking in itself. I actually take that to be a good sign and that maybe Mr. Monk will finally get his due.

Just saw the other thread with the Art Monk or Michael Irvin HoF vote. It's now 70-30 Monk...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../mmqbte/1.html

[FRPLG]

it is 6/6/06. Hell must be getting chilly.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

it is 6/6/06. Hell must be getting chilly.

good one.

I think it shows an incredible lack of integrity to print and say what he has about Monk, but endorse so many others who didn't make that the same impact, statistacally or otherwise. I believe it was Offiss on the other thread that really put Kings' hypocrosy in perspective the best.

He basically nominated Thurman Thomas, who in my opinion, is an underachiever. Yet King showers him with praise.

The more I read these threads, the more I'm convinced that "outsiders" are really getting a whiff of how Redskins Nation really feel about this topic.

[Schneed10]

http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=12638&page=6

[BigSKINBauer]

whatever, I am just glad that all my death threats from little asian midgets are finally paying off.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

good one.

I think it shows an incredible lack of integrity to print and say what he has about Monk, but endorse so many others who didn't make that the same impact, statistacally or otherwise. I believe it was Offiss on the other thread that really put Kings' hypocrosy in perspective the best.

He basically nominated Thurman Thomas, who in my opinion, is an underachiever. Yet King showers him with praise.

The more I read these threads, the more I'm convinced that "outsiders" are really getting a whiff of how Redskins Nation really feel about this topic.

wasnt thomas also convicted on drug charges? what is his fasination with addicts?

[Monk-Fan]

In Kings article he talks about special teamer Steve Tasker and when he is finished he just sticks a small sentence in about Art Monk----

"Now on to other e-mails. And this is a big surprise: I got 16 million pieces of mail saying Art Monk should be in."


This is a big accomplishment from "US" the real fans that know a Hall of Famer like Art Monk when we see one. We finally got him to at least re-think his position, or at least that is what he is saying.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Monk-Fan

In Kings article he talks about special teamer Steve Tasker and when he is finished he just sticks a small sentence in about Art Monk----

"Now on to other e-mails. And this is a big surprise: I got 16 million pieces of mail saying Art Monk should be in."


This is a big accomplishment from "US" the real fans that know a Hall of Famer like Art Monk when we see one. We finally got him to at least re-think his position, or at least that is what he is saying.

WOW Monk-fan, you're in korea??. the warpah knows no boundaries.

[Monk-Fan]

Im in the military and over here for the next year so i wont be able to see as many games this year which pisses me off but on the bright side i will be back in time to see Art Monk inducted to the HoF. When i get back i will be in Cowboy country (Abiliene, Tx.) so you damn well know i will be at the games in Dallas wearing my Skins colors......

[mooby]

It may be some false hope, but i'm the kind of person that gives second chances. Maybe Peter King will actually see the light. Or maybe he won't, he'll just vote Monk in because he's tired of getting millions of emails from diehard redskin fans telling him monk should be in.

[saden1]

You guys really do give Peter King more credit than he deserves. Seriously, he isn't THE guy that's keeping Monk out. There are other voters who don't see Monk fit to be in the hall. I don't agree with it but that's life. The biggest issue I see with the whole thing is that people make it a bigger deal than it aught to be. Maybe it's just something to talk about in the offseason when news is slow?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by saden1

You guys really do give Peter King more credit than he deserves. Seriously, he isn't THE guy that's keeping Monk out. There are other voters who don't see Monk fit to be in the hall. I don't agree with it but that's life. The biggest issue I see with the whole thing is that people make it a bigger deal than it aught to be. Maybe it's just something to talk about in the offseason when news is slow?

i know this is a rumor, but i heard that Peter King does have a big influence on some HOF voters, and when he doesn't think that Monk should be in, the other voters use his opinion to help their vote as well.

[BigSKINBauer]

^^^ Yup. That is the problem.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by saden1

You guys really do give Peter King more credit than he deserves. Seriously, he isn't THE guy that's keeping Monk out. There are other voters who don't see Monk fit to be in the hall. I don't agree with it but that's life. The biggest issue I see with the whole thing is that people make it a bigger deal than it aught to be. Maybe it's just something to talk about in the offseason when news is slow?

Peter King has a lot more influence than you give him credit for, as I detailed here.

The guy is alnost certainly the biggest name in the room when the voting committee meets. (See this list.) That gives him an enormous amount of sway with the other voters on issues they don't feel passionate about. He's managing editor for HBO's Inside the NFL, and a senior writer for Sports Illustrated - the largest sports magazine in the world. If you don't think Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch doesn't give Peter King's opinion a little more weight than that of whatever jerk-off they sent from Jacksonville, you should not be allowed to drive a car.

EDIT: It's come to my attention that Sam Kouvaris of WJXT-TV is not a jerk-off. He serves on the Board of Directors for several charities in North Florida, and annually hosts the Children's Miracle Network Broadcast in Jacksonville. Sam’s annual golf tournament is held each May and benefits Dreams Come True. He is also active at St. Josephs Parish. He also graduated from the University of Maryland, and we all know no one bad ever came from there. Other than that, I stand by my assessment.