A bigger let down!?!?

Redskins8588 · 06-13-2006, 04:41 AM

I was thinking, who let their team down the most, Ricky Williams or Big Ben? Ricky walked out on his team when he retired, but the team he left behind was average at best, and Wandstat was going to run the legs off of Ricky that year. And no I am not going to say that Ricky let the Dolphins down twice with his current situation. The Dolphins have a more than adequate RB in Ronnie Brown. So, this time the Dolphins are not hanging out to dry...

Big Ben, however, through his actions let down the Super Bowl Champs. Pittsburgh had/had a very good shot to repeat but everyone knows that the Steelers O is not as good when Ben isn't taking the snaps. Now, for the time being, there season probably will start out with Charlie Batch directing the O.

If the Steelers didn't just come off of a Super Bowl victory then I wouldn't think of it as Ben letting down his team and team mates. He is the starting QB of a very good ball club things like this show that he is not ready to be a leader.

Thoughts...

dmek25 · 06-13-2006, 07:00 AM

its got to be ricky williams because every bone head thing he has done has been by his choice. sure, it was ben rothlesbergers choice to ride a motorcycle but he didnt choose to get into an accident

Redskins8588 · 06-13-2006, 07:23 AM

To make things clear I really have no position on this, and I kinda think that Ricky is also. I was just saying when do players realize that they are part of something bigger? Like I mean when is Ben or any player going to say "Hey I am the starting (insert position) for the (insert team) and I need to put them before my personal enjoyment."

Paintrain · 06-13-2006, 08:44 AM

Ricky Williams.. If you are already in the substance abuse policy don't do anything but eat crackers and drink water. Supplements contain so many chemicals you can't help but come up dirty.

MTK · 06-13-2006, 09:38 AM

Ben should be ok to play this season, Ricky is up in Canada.

Ricky by a mile. He's let his team down twice now.

Hog1 · 06-13-2006, 10:04 AM

Ricky made a conscious decision, with "known" negative results, highly probable. Those probabilities came true.
Ben made a conscious (albeit stupid) decision with "known" negative results, with an extremely low probability. Those probabilities came true.
RICKY=Worse
Moral????????? Stupid shit always comes back to bite you in the ass!

VTSkins897 · 06-13-2006, 10:16 AM

Ricky is worse.

BigSKINBauer · 06-13-2006, 10:30 AM

Big ben did something that should be illegal
Ricky did something that should be legal

Ricky let down his team so I guess he is the bigger let down. Ricky, however, doesn't like football and only plays fo the money. You have to think he let himself down less.

scowan · 06-13-2006, 11:44 AM

Ricky by a long shot. Ben got into a wreck and the only reason we wonder about him is because he was not wearing a helmet. If he had a wreck and was in just as bad shape AND he was wearing a helmet, we would not be having this TYPE of conversation. We would all be more worried about Ben. If he got hit in a car, we would not be having this conversation. Bad things happen to people, but they don't choose it. Ricky Chose His Stuff! Stupid. I don't call Ben Stupid, just a little reckless. Heck, when I was 17 I rode a moped 25 miles an hour without a helmet, and a car could have run over me and I would not have considered myself reckless.

D'BOYZ · 06-13-2006, 11:44 AM

Both .... because Ben was warn last year about ridding in a motocycle because he's the Masterchief of that offense he needed to be the example and he specially was warn about ridding without a helment and he was a smartass about it.

He tought he could get hurt he was dumb and put his hole season and his team season in jeoperdy just like ricky did when he retire.

Both are dumb selfish morrons.

Drago · 06-13-2006, 11:53 AM

There is no comparison, Ricky is repeat offender. This is Ben's first srew up, I'm willing to bet he wears a helmet for now on.

TheMasterScratch · 06-13-2006, 02:24 PM

I think both men made foolish mistakes that were detrimental to both their team and themselves.

After some of Ricky's antics when he first entered the league, I think you will find some people that weren't surprised at all about what he did. But I think Ben is the bigger let down for the reason being so many people were telling him about the dangers of riding helmetless, but he went against the advice and continued in his ways. Terry Bradshaw told Roethlisberger last year to stop riding the motorcycle. There's too much danger involved, see what happened to Kellen Winslow II last year.

Ben seems to be a smart young man, and you would think he would take the precautions and keep himself safe with a helmet, especially given how valuable he is to his team. Unfortunately he didnt do that, and it cost him.

gibbs4life · 06-13-2006, 03:21 PM

i would have to say both as well.
in bens case i would wear a helmet if it wasn,t a law.
in rickys case well i guess he rather smoke it up than play football not once but twice.
so both are at fault here and their organizations are paying the price for it as well as their teammates.

jbcjr14 · 06-13-2006, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drago

There is no comparison, Ricky is repeat offender. This is Ben's first srew up, I'm willing to bet he wears a helmet for now on.

I would be willing to bet he doesn't ride a motorcycle from now on.

Hog1 · 06-13-2006, 04:32 PM

He'll be getting a new contract with a.............few clauses added

06-13-2006, 04:41 AM	#1
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	A bigger let down!?!? I was thinking, who let their team down the most, Ricky Williams or Big Ben? Ricky walked out on his team when he retired, but the team he left behind was average at best, and Wandstat was going to run the legs off of Ricky that year. And no I am not going to say that Ricky let the Dolphins down twice with his current situation. The Dolphins have a more than adequate RB in Ronnie Brown. So, this time the Dolphins are not hanging out to dry... Big Ben, however, through his actions let down the Super Bowl Champs. Pittsburgh had/had a very good shot to repeat but everyone knows that the Steelers O is not as good when Ben isn't taking the snaps. Now, for the time being, there season probably will start out with Charlie Batch directing the O. If the Steelers didn't just come off of a Super Bowl victory then I wouldn't think of it as Ben letting down his team and team mates. He is the starting QB of a very good ball club things like this show that he is not ready to be a leader. Thoughts... __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

06-13-2006, 07:00 AM	#2
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: A bigger let down!?!? its got to be ricky williams because every bone head thing he has done has been by his choice. sure, it was ben rothlesbergers choice to ride a motorcycle but he didnt choose to get into an accident __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

06-13-2006, 07:23 AM	#3
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	Re: A bigger let down!?!? To make things clear I really have no position on this, and I kinda think that Ricky is also. I was just saying when do players realize that they are part of something bigger? Like I mean when is Ben or any player going to say "Hey I am the starting (insert position) for the (insert team) and I need to put them before my personal enjoyment." __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

06-13-2006, 08:44 AM	#4
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: A bigger let down!?!? Ricky Williams.. If you are already in the substance abuse policy don't do anything but eat crackers and drink water. Supplements contain so many chemicals you can't help but come up dirty. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

06-13-2006, 09:38 AM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: A bigger let down!?!? Ben should be ok to play this season, Ricky is up in Canada. Ricky by a mile. He's let his team down twice now.

06-13-2006, 10:04 AM	#6
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: A bigger let down!?!? Ricky made a conscious decision, with "known" negative results, highly probable. Those probabilities came true. Ben made a conscious (albeit stupid) decision with "known" negative results, with an extremely low probability. Those probabilities came true. RICKY=Worse Moral????????? Stupid shit always comes back to bite you in the ass! __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

06-13-2006, 10:16 AM	#7
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 890	Re: A bigger let down!?!? Ricky is worse.

06-13-2006, 10:30 AM	#8
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: A bigger let down!?!? Big ben did something that should be illegal Ricky did something that should be legal Ricky let down his team so I guess he is the bigger let down. Ricky, however, doesn't like football and only plays fo the money. You have to think he let himself down less.

06-13-2006, 11:44 AM	#9
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 55 Posts: 1,559	Re: A bigger let down!?!? Ricky by a long shot. Ben got into a wreck and the only reason we wonder about him is because he was not wearing a helmet. If he had a wreck and was in just as bad shape AND he was wearing a helmet, we would not be having this TYPE of conversation. We would all be more worried about Ben. If he got hit in a car, we would not be having this conversation. Bad things happen to people, but they don't choose it. Ricky Chose His Stuff! Stupid. I don't call Ben Stupid, just a little reckless. Heck, when I was 17 I rode a moped 25 miles an hour without a helmet, and a car could have run over me and I would not have considered myself reckless.

06-13-2006, 11:44 AM	#10
D'BOYZ The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,363	Re: A bigger let down!?!? Both .... because Ben was warn last year about ridding in a motocycle because he's the Masterchief of that offense he needed to be the example and he specially was warn about ridding without a helment and he was a smartass about it. He tought he could get hurt he was dumb and put his hole season and his team season in jeoperdy just like ricky did when he retire. Both are dumb selfish morrons.

06-13-2006, 11:53 AM	#11
Drago Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Severn MD. Age: 69 Posts: 43	Re: A bigger let down!?!? There is no comparison, Ricky is repeat offender. This is Ben's first srew up, I'm willing to bet he wears a helmet for now on. __________________ You got Skins to the left, Skins to the right and your the only game in town

06-13-2006, 02:24 PM	#12
TheMasterScratch Camp Scrub Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4	Re: A bigger let down!?!? I think both men made foolish mistakes that were detrimental to both their team and themselves. After some of Ricky's antics when he first entered the league, I think you will find some people that weren't surprised at all about what he did. But I think Ben is the bigger let down for the reason being so many people were telling him about the dangers of riding helmetless, but he went against the advice and continued in his ways. Terry Bradshaw told Roethlisberger last year to stop riding the motorcycle. There's too much danger involved, see what happened to Kellen Winslow II last year. Ben seems to be a smart young man, and you would think he would take the precautions and keep himself safe with a helmet, especially given how valuable he is to his team. Unfortunately he didnt do that, and it cost him.

06-13-2006, 03:21 PM	#13
gibbs4life Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: chocowinity nc Age: 55 Posts: 282	Re: A bigger let down!?!? i would have to say both as well. in bens case i would wear a helmet if it wasn,t a law. in rickys case well i guess he rather smoke it up than play football not once but twice. so both are at fault here and their organizations are paying the price for it as well as their teammates. __________________ with the sixth pick dan synder selects......daniel synder ...to find someone that will be a better fit for the front office..

06-13-2006, 04:32 PM	#15
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: A bigger let down!?!? He'll be getting a new contract with a.............few clauses added __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

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