Predictions on starting lineup

Big C · 06-07-2004, 07:00 PM

not much goin on in football right now, so im gonna make a predction to who i think should start, like to compare others also...Assuming Noble isnt ready also

QB-P. Ram
HB-Sea Port (Portis)
H/back-Cooley
TE-Kozlowski
OT-Samuels
OG-Dockery
C-Raymer
OG-Thomas
OT-Jansen
WR-Coles
WR-Gardner
WR-Jacobs

DE-Wynn
DT-Griffen
DT-Daniels
DE-Upshaw
OLB-L.A.
MLB-Barrow
OLB-Washington
CB-Springs
CB-Smoot
CB(for nickle packages)- Harris
FS-Taylor
SS-Ohalete

SmootSmack · 06-07-2004, 07:06 PM

Well I love Ramsey but I think Mark Brunell starts game one. Also, I'm going with Haley at DT and Daniels at DE, with Upshaw coming off the bench

And Bowen at SS

skins009 · 06-07-2004, 07:07 PM

TO hell with that Patrick Ramsey is gonna start, because he is a star and Brunnel is a gimp.

jrocx69 · 06-07-2004, 07:16 PM

anyway... i think smoot hit it on the head, yet i think we have a few more... koz at H-back and rasby at tight end. baxter in two tights... ralph brown and bauman share nickel while harris heals during season

Phinehas · 06-07-2004, 07:17 PM

I also think that Brunell will get the nod at QB to begin the season. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ramsey finish it.

I think that an as-yet undetermined DT will start next to Griffen. I'm hoping we will trade for one, which brings me to...

I think Thrash might end up as the no. 2 receiver with McCants and Taylor battling for the 3rd spot, and Garder traded away to another team.

--Phin

jrocx69 · 06-07-2004, 07:24 PM

i dont think we will get any trade value for rod in a player for player trade, especially those postions

to many teams looking for solid dt's, so we wont get but another avg dt for him. haley should do ok along with salave'a and noble very slowly easing his way back... but williams likes beef and lots of it in his dt's. thats why i pick haley for the start of the season

SmootSmack · 06-07-2004, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrocx69

anyway... i think smoot hit it on the head, yet i think we have a few more... koz at H-back and rasby at tight end. baxter in two tights... ralph brown and bauman share nickel while harris heals during season

is harris hurt? when did that happen?

MTK · 06-07-2004, 07:44 PM

I love Ramsey but I think Brunell's experience and accuracy will win out.

joecrisp · 06-07-2004, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smootsmack

is harris hurt? when did that happen?

Harris hasn't participated in any of the offseason drills, as he is still recovering from a torn tendon in his knee that he sustained during the playoffs. He had been suffering from knee tendinitis for most of the 2003 season.

Tendon injuries and tendonitis tend to linger and flare up frequently, so the Redskins signed him to a deal that is laden with incentives based on his health. I suspect he'll probably be limited in the preseason as a precaution.

SmootSmack · 06-07-2004, 07:52 PM

Thanks for that update Crisp. Never like to see a Redskin get hurt but I imagine this has opened the door for Ade Jimoh to really step it up and claim that nickelback spot, right Crisp?

joecrisp · 06-07-2004, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smootsmack

Thanks for that update Crisp. Never like to see a Redskin get hurt but I imagine this has opened the door for Ade Jimoh to really step it up and claim that nickelback spot, right Crisp?

DAMN RIGHT!!! GO ADE, GO!!!

Hogskin · 06-07-2004, 08:04 PM

I see a couple obvious, glaring problems with the original post on this thread. First, Koz is competing for the H-back spot, not blocking TE. So the 2 TE's you have there are not going to work. Rasby seems to have the edge right now on the blocking TE spot. Second, of the 3 WR's you have there is not one "possession" WR (as in Art Monk). There will be one. Probably McCants, but Thrash could play that role - not Jacobs or Mr "Drop-the 3rd-down-pass". Speaking of Gardner, he will be either WR #2, or traded, or collecting splinters. I am betting on a trade, with a chance at the bench.

Also, it would seem that due to experience, past success, and Gibbs' love for older veteran QB's, Brunell has a very strong advantage for the QB job.

Bergman14 · 06-07-2004, 08:46 PM

Yeah someone mentioned it before, but lets get back to SS. I thought undoubtedly it would be Bowen, not Ohalete, does anyone else think iffy should get the nod over Bowen?

joecrisp · 06-07-2004, 08:47 PM

You're right about Koz, John. He's definitely more on the H-back track than the blocking TE role. In fact, if you read Nunyo Demasio's chat transcipt (http://discuss.washingtonpost.com/wp...asio060704.htm ), he seems to feel that Koz could be the starting H-back, instead of Sellers or Cooley. His experience definitely gives him an edge going into training camp, but I'm not sold on his athleticism. Sellers and Cooley bring a combination of size, versatility and athleticism to the role that could make the H-back position a very special weapon in this offense.

As far as the wideouts, I could definitely see Gardner losing his #2 job by mid-season, if not by the end of the preseason. McCants is definitely going to see more playing time, and I think Gibbs would like to see him develop into a reliable possession receiver and red zone threat. But that's not a given. Much like Gardner, he has the physical tools, but his focus and determination have been suspect at times. McCants also sat out much of the offseason work with a shoulder injury. Thrash and Jacobs bring the focus and work ethic that Gibbs adores, so they represent significant wildcards in that respect; plus Thrash has tremendous experience, and Jacobs has loads of potential.

One thing's for sure: the logjam at wide receiver presents Gibbs with a conundrum that a lot of coaches would love to have.

Redskins8588 · 06-07-2004, 09:17 PM

I still think that Sellers will start the season at H-Back. What he may lack in experince he makes up for in his size and athleticism.

06-07-2004, 07:00 PM	#1
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	Predictions on starting lineup not much goin on in football right now, so im gonna make a predction to who i think should start, like to compare others also...Assuming Noble isnt ready also QB-P. Ram HB-Sea Port (Portis) H/back-Cooley TE-Kozlowski OT-Samuels OG-Dockery C-Raymer OG-Thomas OT-Jansen WR-Coles WR-Gardner WR-Jacobs DE-Wynn DT-Griffen DT-Daniels DE-Upshaw OLB-L.A. MLB-Barrow OLB-Washington CB-Springs CB-Smoot CB(for nickle packages)- Harris FS-Taylor SS-Ohalete

06-07-2004, 07:52 PM	#10
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Thanks for that update Crisp. Never like to see a Redskin get hurt but I imagine this has opened the door for Ade Jimoh to really step it up and claim that nickelback spot, right Crisp? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-07-2004, 08:04 PM	#12
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 83 Posts: 659	I see a couple obvious, glaring problems with the original post on this thread. First, Koz is competing for the H-back spot, not blocking TE. So the 2 TE's you have there are not going to work. Rasby seems to have the edge right now on the blocking TE spot. Second, of the 3 WR's you have there is not one "possession" WR (as in Art Monk). There will be one. Probably McCants, but Thrash could play that role - not Jacobs or Mr "Drop-the 3rd-down-pass". Speaking of Gardner, he will be either WR #2, or traded, or collecting splinters. I am betting on a trade, with a chance at the bench. Also, it would seem that due to experience, past success, and Gibbs' love for older veteran QB's, Brunell has a very strong advantage for the QB job. __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

06-07-2004, 09:17 PM	#15
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	I still think that Sellers will start the season at H-Back. What he may lack in experince he makes up for in his size and athleticism. __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

06-07-2004, 07:06 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Well I love Ramsey but I think Mark Brunell starts game one. Also, I'm going with Haley at DT and Daniels at DE, with Upshaw coming off the bench And Bowen at SS __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-07-2004, 07:07 PM	#3
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	TO hell with that Patrick Ramsey is gonna start, because he is a star and Brunnel is a gimp.

06-07-2004, 07:16 PM	#4
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	anyway... i think smoot hit it on the head, yet i think we have a few more... koz at H-back and rasby at tight end. baxter in two tights... ralph brown and bauman share nickel while harris heals during season

06-07-2004, 07:17 PM	#5
Phinehas Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 106	I also think that Brunell will get the nod at QB to begin the season. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ramsey finish it. I think that an as-yet undetermined DT will start next to Griffen. I'm hoping we will trade for one, which brings me to... I think Thrash might end up as the no. 2 receiver with McCants and Taylor battling for the 3rd spot, and Garder traded away to another team. --Phin

06-07-2004, 07:24 PM	#6
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	i dont think we will get any trade value for rod in a player for player trade, especially those postions to many teams looking for solid dt's, so we wont get but another avg dt for him. haley should do ok along with salave'a and noble very slowly easing his way back... but williams likes beef and lots of it in his dt's. thats why i pick haley for the start of the season

06-07-2004, 07:44 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	I love Ramsey but I think Brunell's experience and accuracy will win out.

06-07-2004, 08:46 PM	#13
Bergman14 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Winston-Salem Age: 41 Posts: 138	Yeah someone mentioned it before, but lets get back to SS. I thought undoubtedly it would be Bowen, not Ohalete, does anyone else think iffy should get the nod over Bowen?

06-07-2004, 08:47 PM	#14
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,501	You're right about Koz, John. He's definitely more on the H-back track than the blocking TE role. In fact, if you read Nunyo Demasio's chat transcipt (http://discuss.washingtonpost.com/wp...asio060704.htm ), he seems to feel that Koz could be the starting H-back, instead of Sellers or Cooley. His experience definitely gives him an edge going into training camp, but I'm not sold on his athleticism. Sellers and Cooley bring a combination of size, versatility and athleticism to the role that could make the H-back position a very special weapon in this offense. As far as the wideouts, I could definitely see Gardner losing his #2 job by mid-season, if not by the end of the preseason. McCants is definitely going to see more playing time, and I think Gibbs would like to see him develop into a reliable possession receiver and red zone threat. But that's not a given. Much like Gardner, he has the physical tools, but his focus and determination have been suspect at times. McCants also sat out much of the offseason work with a shoulder injury. Thrash and Jacobs bring the focus and work ethic that Gibbs adores, so they represent significant wildcards in that respect; plus Thrash has tremendous experience, and Jacobs has loads of potential. One thing's for sure: the logjam at wide receiver presents Gibbs with a conundrum that a lot of coaches would love to have.

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