First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ???

BrunellMVP? · 11-07-2006, 03:24 PM

Ok so we had 7 chances from the 4 yard line and we failed to get in. I don't mind callign portis' number a couple of times, but WHERE was TJ Duckett? The man made his name plunging through the line for goal line scores, why not give him the opportunity now? While i think Portis is more than capable of scoring TDs, i think he's more of a score from 5 yards or more type back as opposed to a bruiser. That said, I'm NOT blaming portis. That blame would fall on the O line for not being able to get their back in the endzone. Am I crazy, or should we have not given TJ the ball?

SmootSmack · 11-07-2006, 03:26 PM

Wasn't there a thread on this exact topic just last night? I'm too lazy to look it up. That Guy...look it up

MTK · 11-07-2006, 03:27 PM

TJ is 3rd on the depth chart. Get used to it. And you said it yourself, the o-line didn't do it's job.

dall-assblows · 11-07-2006, 03:30 PM

i think betts looks really good and fast this year. i hope we can keep him. kind of selfish i suppose but i want to keep him

hesscl34 · 11-07-2006, 03:30 PM

I want to keep betts too!! We need him!

CanadianSkin · 11-07-2006, 03:32 PM

Okay well at this point when it comes to TJ, I am sure he is totally pissed he came here to be the 3rd back. we are wasting all this money on him. I was excited when we traded for him and thought we would have the Portis/TJ combo, but Betts is still in there which I am fine with, but why three backs? So we lost a 3rd rounder for jersey filler?? He is gone next year and we end up with nothing. This is one of those bad moves we have made in the past. Most other free agent moves I am okay with. Maybe a tad ticked with AA coming in, when we could have gone after Vincent to begin with.

61cad · 11-07-2006, 03:51 PM

I agree! After giving Portis 6 shots at it, why not TJ?

Al Saunders said yesterday on Comcast that “we haven’t been inside the 5 enough times this year and we wanted to see if Clinton could do it he is our best back. May be next time we will use TJ.”

ArtMonkDrillz · 11-07-2006, 03:54 PM

I try to block TJ Duckett out of my mind because every time I think of him rotting away on our bench, especially in situations like the one you guys are talking about, I get so pissed that my vision gets blurry and it sounds like a train is stemming through my brain. Ahhhhhhhh, the anger sharks are swimming in my head!

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-07-2006, 03:57 PM

Speaking of Betts, I NEVER want to see him in on a short yardage situation again. Portis, Duckett, Sellers, ALL are better short yardage runners than him. Hell, even Cartwright could have an argument made for him, but not Betts.

redsk1 · 11-07-2006, 03:58 PM

I'll take my chances w/ Portis. The offensive line was so bad no one could have made it.

I thought our o-line would be a strength this year, but no so right now. As much talk as there is about running the ball more, we just aren't doing it very well. That's not CP's fault.

Schneed10 · 11-07-2006, 04:04 PM

How you don't put TJ Duckett or Mike Sellers in to run in the short yardage package is beyond me.

It's a simple matter of physics, bigger dudes have a better chance. If the offensive line is opening holes, it doesn't matter who's running, they'll score a TD. The reason you use a big guy around the goalline is he gives you the potential to run someone over when the offensive line doesn't clear the path.

This is easily the most asinine job of using personnel I've seen in a long time.

It's like Madden used to say about Bam Morris. "If you need one yard, Bam Morris will get you three. If you need five yards, Bam Morris will get you three." PUT THE BIG GUYS IN.

F*$cking stupid.

Schneed10 · 11-07-2006, 04:07 PM

The only advantage Portis gives you around the goalline is if you pitch it to him on the edge and he goes one on one or one on two, and has some room on either side of him to make defenders guess and miss.

If he's running right into the line of scrimmage trying to plow ahead, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that Duckett or Sellers aren't better suited for that than Portis.

dall-assblows · 11-07-2006, 04:07 PM

i think betts is our fastest back though

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-07-2006, 04:08 PM

I think he and Portis are close on speed. Portis is FAR more powerful..

Schneed10 · 11-07-2006, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

i think betts is our fastest back though

No he's not, that's crazy talk. Portis is way faster.

11-07-2006, 03:24 PM	#1
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? Ok so we had 7 chances from the 4 yard line and we failed to get in. I don't mind callign portis' number a couple of times, but WHERE was TJ Duckett? The man made his name plunging through the line for goal line scores, why not give him the opportunity now? While i think Portis is more than capable of scoring TDs, i think he's more of a score from 5 yards or more type back as opposed to a bruiser. That said, I'm NOT blaming portis. That blame would fall on the O line for not being able to get their back in the endzone. Am I crazy, or should we have not given TJ the ball? __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

11-07-2006, 03:26 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? Wasn't there a thread on this exact topic just last night? I'm too lazy to look it up. That Guy...look it up __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-07-2006, 03:27 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,568	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? TJ is 3rd on the depth chart. Get used to it. And you said it yourself, the o-line didn't do it's job. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-07-2006, 03:30 PM	#4
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 41 Posts: 2,211	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? i think betts looks really good and fast this year. i hope we can keep him. kind of selfish i suppose but i want to keep him __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

11-07-2006, 03:30 PM	#5
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? I want to keep betts too!! We need him!

11-07-2006, 03:32 PM	#6
CanadianSkin Special Teams Join Date: May 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Age: 48 Posts: 226	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? Okay well at this point when it comes to TJ, I am sure he is totally pissed he came here to be the 3rd back. we are wasting all this money on him. I was excited when we traded for him and thought we would have the Portis/TJ combo, but Betts is still in there which I am fine with, but why three backs? So we lost a 3rd rounder for jersey filler?? He is gone next year and we end up with nothing. This is one of those bad moves we have made in the past. Most other free agent moves I am okay with. Maybe a tad ticked with AA coming in, when we could have gone after Vincent to begin with. __________________ HTTR from North of the 49th!!!!! Two things I love.... Canada and the Redskins!!!!

11-07-2006, 03:51 PM	#7
61cad Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 296	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? I agree! After giving Portis 6 shots at it, why not TJ? Al Saunders said yesterday on Comcast that “we haven’t been inside the 5 enough times this year and we wanted to see if Clinton could do it he is our best back. May be next time we will use TJ.” __________________ DAMN YOU SAM HUFF, F****ING NEW YORK GIANT!

11-07-2006, 03:54 PM	#8
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? I try to block TJ Duckett out of my mind because every time I think of him rotting away on our bench, especially in situations like the one you guys are talking about, I get so pissed that my vision gets blurry and it sounds like a train is stemming through my brain. Ahhhhhhhh, the anger sharks are swimming in my head! __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

11-07-2006, 03:57 PM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? Speaking of Betts, I NEVER want to see him in on a short yardage situation again. Portis, Duckett, Sellers, ALL are better short yardage runners than him. Hell, even Cartwright could have an argument made for him, but not Betts. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-07-2006, 03:58 PM	#10
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? I'll take my chances w/ Portis. The offensive line was so bad no one could have made it. I thought our o-line would be a strength this year, but no so right now. As much talk as there is about running the ball more, we just aren't doing it very well. That's not CP's fault.

11-07-2006, 04:04 PM	#11
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,426	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? How you don't put TJ Duckett or Mike Sellers in to run in the short yardage package is beyond me. It's a simple matter of physics, bigger dudes have a better chance. If the offensive line is opening holes, it doesn't matter who's running, they'll score a TD. The reason you use a big guy around the goalline is he gives you the potential to run someone over when the offensive line doesn't clear the path. This is easily the most asinine job of using personnel I've seen in a long time. It's like Madden used to say about Bam Morris. "If you need one yard, Bam Morris will get you three. If you need five yards, Bam Morris will get you three." PUT THE BIG GUYS IN. F$cking stupid. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.*

11-07-2006, 04:07 PM	#12
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,426	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? The only advantage Portis gives you around the goalline is if you pitch it to him on the edge and he goes one on one or one on two, and has some room on either side of him to make defenders guess and miss. If he's running right into the line of scrimmage trying to plow ahead, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that Duckett or Sellers aren't better suited for that than Portis. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

11-07-2006, 04:08 PM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: First and goal from the 2- WHERE'S TJ??? I think he and Portis are close on speed. Portis is FAR more powerful.. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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