Steve Czaban Article

Bill B · 01-03-2007, 04:08 PM

Here is a link to a new Stece Czaban article (sorry if someone already posted it).

OnMilwaukee.com Sports: It's enough to make a Redskins fan sick

What I found interesting in the article was this tibit

"Here's a little factoid that may interest you: since Dan Snyder took over in 1999, not a single high-priced free agent he has brought in has made the Pro Bowl. (NOTE: 2005 Pro-Bowlers Portis and Moss were traded for, remember. Give something to get something.)"

SmootSmack · 01-03-2007, 04:13 PM

Yeah well it's a travesty that Marcus Washington didn't make it the past couple of years. And as long as the Romos of the world are getting Pro Bowl nods then that game carries no weight.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-03-2007, 04:19 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't mention the Pro Bowl as any measure of talent.

Britney's cooch could make the Pro Bowl if it had a few good games.

MTK · 01-03-2007, 04:49 PM

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004, baldy needs to check his facts a little closer. Perhaps if he wasn't always shooting off like a rabid fan he would come off a little more legit.

dmek25 · 01-03-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yeah, I wouldn't mention the Pro Bowl as any measure of talent.

Britney's cooch could make the Pro Bowl if it had a few good games.

i would be willing to bet that cooch HAS had more then a few good games

SmootSmack · 01-03-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004.

Well then. There you go

Bill B · 01-03-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004.

I guess Czab should do his research before his posts his article.

I will say though even if the Redskins are bad for 6 more years I will still be a fan that is emotionally attached to the team - I just feel bad for the season ticket holders that are locked in for 5 years and have to keep paying higher and higher prices to support all these moves.

MTK · 01-03-2007, 04:58 PM

Just for kicks here are our Pro Bowl selections since Snyder took over.

2000: Alexander, Bailey, Coleman, Davis

2001: Arrington, Bailey, Samuels

2002: Arrington, Bailey, Samuels

2003: Arrington, Bailey, Coles

2004: Washington

2005: Moss, Samuels

2006: Samuels

redsk1 · 01-03-2007, 05:20 PM

I feel like i take up for Czaban alot, b/c usually he sais what i think (for the most part). I am a fan and I've been usually disappointed for the better part of 15 years only to renew hope every offseason. There are worse owners out there and I've got to believe that Snyder wants to win badly enough that he'll do anything, even change a little.

squrrelco3 · 01-03-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004, baldy needs to check his facts a little closer. Perhaps if he wasn't always shooting off like a rabid fan he would come off a little more legit.

Washington wasn't considered a high priced Pro Bowl blockbuster when he was signed like AA, B. Smith or D. Sanders. He was added as a solid pickup and nothing more kind-of a "role player"...his career didn't take off till after he signed with the 'Skins (a rarity nowdays).

MTK · 01-03-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by squrrelco3

Washington wasn't considered a high priced Pro Bowl blockbuster when he was signed like AA, B. Smith or D. Sanders. He was added as a solid pickup and nothing more kind-of a "role player"...his career didn't take off till after he signed with the 'Skins (a rarity nowdays).

Washington signed a 6 year deal worth $25M and a bonus of $7M. Sorry but that's a little more than just a solid pickup or a role player. He was pretty highly regarded coming over from Indy.

Daseal · 01-03-2007, 07:34 PM

Notice he says "High Priced." When we signed Washington we got him for a very reasonable price and no one expected him to play this well. He was just a regular free agent that panned out to be great. 6 year 25 mil really isn't that large of a contract for the 'skins.

MTK · 01-03-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Notice he says "High Priced." When we signed Washington we got him for a very reasonable price and no one expected him to play this well. He was just a regular free agent that panned out to be great. 6 year 25 mil really isn't that large of a contract for the 'skins.

It's not a role player $$ either. Two years ago that was a pretty nice sized deal for a LB. We didn't overpay for once, but it wasn't chump change either.

hurrykaine · 01-03-2007, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's not a role player $$ either. Two years ago that was a pretty nice sized deal for a LB. We didn't overpay for once, but it wasn't chump change either.

Czaban's right. While I agree that we didn't sign him for a pittance, Washington certainly wasn't a high priced FA acquisition. In terms of guaranteed money, Washington got a contract of lesser value than what Pierce got from the Giants last year.

The high priced FAs being referred to by Czaban are Deion, Bruce Smith, Coles, Hall, Renaldo Wynn (sorry, had to get my shot at him), Tupa, Brunell, Carter, AA, Lloyd, etc.

jsarno · 01-04-2007, 12:06 AM

Umm guys, not only did free agent Washington make the Pro Bowl, but free agent Coles did too.

01-03-2007, 04:08 PM	#1
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Steve Czaban Article Here is a link to a new Stece Czaban article (sorry if someone already posted it). OnMilwaukee.com Sports: It's enough to make a Redskins fan sick What I found interesting in the article was this tibit "Here's a little factoid that may interest you: since Dan Snyder took over in 1999, not a single high-priced free agent he has brought in has made the Pro Bowl. (NOTE: 2005 Pro-Bowlers Portis and Moss were traded for, remember. Give something to get something.)"

01-03-2007, 04:13 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Steve Czaban Article Yeah well it's a travesty that Marcus Washington didn't make it the past couple of years. And as long as the Romos of the world are getting Pro Bowl nods then that game carries no weight. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Steve Czaban Article Yeah, I wouldn't mention the Pro Bowl as any measure of talent. Britney's cooch could make the Pro Bowl if it had a few good games. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Steve Czaban Article Washington did make the Pro Bowl in 2004, baldy needs to check his facts a little closer. Perhaps if he wasn't always shooting off like a rabid fan he would come off a little more legit. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Steve Czaban Article Just for kicks here are our Pro Bowl selections since Snyder took over. 2000: Alexander, Bailey, Coleman, Davis 2001: Arrington, Bailey, Samuels 2002: Arrington, Bailey, Samuels 2003: Arrington, Bailey, Coles 2004: Washington 2005: Moss, Samuels 2006: Samuels __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-03-2007, 05:20 PM	#9
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Steve Czaban Article I feel like i take up for Czaban alot, b/c usually he sais what i think (for the most part). I am a fan and I've been usually disappointed for the better part of 15 years only to renew hope every offseason. There are worse owners out there and I've got to believe that Snyder wants to win badly enough that he'll do anything, even change a little.

01-03-2007, 07:34 PM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Steve Czaban Article Notice he says "High Priced." When we signed Washington we got him for a very reasonable price and no one expected him to play this well. He was just a regular free agent that panned out to be great. 6 year 25 mil really isn't that large of a contract for the 'skins. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

01-04-2007, 12:06 AM	#15
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 49 Posts: 9,534	Re: Steve Czaban Article Umm guys, not only did free agent Washington make the Pro Bowl, but free agent Coles did too. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

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